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rhodz2001uk

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15 posts

178 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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My wife had her ridgeback hybrid stolen from our shed last week (scumbags) and she's pretty upset about it because I had bought it for her birthday a couple of years back.

It was nothing fancy but a decent bike from my LBS.

Been looking around and cash is a bit tight at the mo so buying a new one outright not really an option. Also not really cost effective to claim in the insurance given the excess and possible increased premiums.

I have found a frame in the right size and from the same model going fairly cheaply so was thinking about putting one together myself.

I have a little mechanical ability i.e. info my own simple maintenance on my own bike but I have taken it into my lbs in the past to have the bottom bracket replaced.

Parts seem to be available fairly cheaply on e-bay so my question is how difficult is it to build a bike from the frame up?

Are there any particular problem areas or things to look out for?

Many thanks

Highrisedrifter

754 posts

183 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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I used to build my own OSBMXes from just component parts. The only things I had issues with were installing the bottom bracket cups and the headset. the can be difficult things to get on. People seem to use everything from vices and wooden blocks, to rubber mallets and all sorts in order to get them in, although there are tools especially for these jobs available.

Apart from that, it's remarkably easy. Admittedly, I never had to deal with derailleurs though.

CoolC

4,499 posts

243 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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As said the bottom bracket will be the main issue, most other jobs are sorted with allen keys and spanners, but all BB's need a special tool.

Gear indexing can be a bit of a black art too.

I suppose you could get an LBS to fit the BB and headset, you build up the rest and then if necessary take it back to the LBS for the final tinkering.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

227 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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It doesn't say where you're based in your profile. If you're in N Yorks I'll do the headset and BB for you and set up the gears. Only takes half an hour with the right tools, which I've been slowly building up over the last few years.

The rest you can do with allen keys and an adjustable.

CC07 PEU

2,516 posts

233 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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You may have to get the surfaces of the frame faced when installing a new headset or bottom bracket so that's why it's good to get the LBS to do this.

If you do fit the BB yourself though just make sure you don't cross the threads. I've ruined two frames as a result of this...

Jimbo.

4,216 posts

218 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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As long as you remember "standards" i.e. the right type/width of bottom bracket, headset etc, it's easy. Just don't do as I did and build it in a very small bedroom...before realising you've got to get the thing out and down the stairs...

scottri

951 posts

211 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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While i agree with everything above, and i'm sure you'll enjoy learning while building the bike, i doubt that building the bike from parts will be as cost effective as just finding a complete bike 2nd hand ... I suggest doing some man-maths before you get stuck in!

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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headset was the hardest for me even with a tool off the net. Is there any local bike forums near you, there is always someone happy to help.

deadtom

2,769 posts

194 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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like others have said you will need a special tool to fit the headset, bottom bracket (BB) and crown race. everything else can be done with allen keys, spanners and a few other tools.

facing the headtube and BB shell is recommended but not vital

after the BB and headset the main difficulty is in getting parts that will fit together correctly. due to the sheer number of different sizes and standards available these days it would take too long to go through everything in one go, so i'll start with the first bits that you'll be putting directly on to the frame:

  • do you know what size wheels its meant for?
  • do you know how many gears you are going to want to put on it?
  • is the frame meant to take disc brakes or rim brakes, or if it can take either, which do you want to use?
  • you need to measure the width of the bottom bracket shell. it will almost certainly be either 68 or 73 mm wide.
  • you will need to measure both the internal and external diameters of the seat tube
  • the internal diameter of the headtube will almost certainly be 1 and 1/8th of an inch with no threads cut into it, but you should probably check to make sure
alternatively, tell us the make and model of frame and it shouldnt be too hard to find out.

rhodz2001uk

Original Poster:

15 posts

178 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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Rhino - many thanks for the kind offer but I am in Cardiff so it would be a bit of a trek!

Having thought about it I think I'm going to go for the frame. The benefit is that I can buy bits as and when I have a bit of spare cash even if it takes 6 months. Good idea about talking it to my LBS top do gear indexing etc.

At the end I can give her the bike that I built for her which hopefully will hold a bit more sentimental value and replace the one I bought her for her birthday.

Hopefully the pistonheads collective intelligence will be able to help me out should I get stuck - ill have to start a build thread!

rhodz2001uk

Original Poster:

15 posts

178 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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Hi deadtom

The wheel size is 700c and the frame has fittings for v brakes. I suspect I'll fit a 7 cog cassette.

Not sure about the dimensions for the bottom bracket shell or the headset yet.

Im not looking to fit super duper components, she will only use it for recreational riding and only for about 10 miles at a time so was thinking about using A shimano acera group set.

The only thing I am struggling with at the moment is a fork. Back to the research!!

deadtom

2,769 posts

194 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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just read my last post back and realised it sounds a bit patronising.

sorry, it wasnt meant to be frown

do you know if you'll go for a double or triple chainset at the front?

the only difference it makes other than the obvious needing a 2 or 3 speed front shifter is that with a double chainset you can get away with a medium length cage rear mech, but triple chainsets tend to require long cage.

and as you're not going for really high spec, im guessing you wont go for external bearing BB/crankset?

Paul Drawmer

5,155 posts

296 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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V brakes may not reach the 700 wheel rims on some frames that have been built for 26 rims.

khushy

3,984 posts

248 months

Sunday 11th March 2012
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I come to Newport twice a week, make us a brew and I will build it for you FOC!

Once you have all the bits of course.

Khushy

rhodz2001uk

Original Poster:

15 posts

178 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Khushy - thanks so much for the offer, very kind!

Sadly missed out on the frame i had my eye on through e-bay but nevertheless it got me thinking.

Really liking the idea of building one up from scratch. It will be a positive learning experience for me and hopefully Mrs Rhodz will be happy with the effort plus it will allow be to buy the bits and bobs as and when the cash is available and dip into my own spares box.

Been looking around tinternet for a hybrid frame and so far the front runner seems to be this: http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?Mod...

The only reservation would be that the geometary is a bit more agressive that her previous ridgeback velocity. Can't argue with the price though.

Any other suggestions?

Roman

2,034 posts

248 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Specialized Sirrus has a great frame - ubiquitous, not too pricey & barely 1.2kg. I used one to build this light trail hybrid for my father with some old spare parts and cheap/lightweight/used ebay items. It has a single 39t chainring and 9sp 11-34 cassette, perfect for leisure riding.

Weighs around 8kg so really flies uphills & easy for lifting over styles, onto bike racks etc. Single ring, cheap carbon cx forks, folding cx tyres and my old race wheels help keep the weight low.