The why doesn't anybody want a go on the rolling road topic
The why doesn't anybody want a go on the rolling road topic
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assynt road

Original Poster:

379 posts

217 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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Hi, as the title says I was was wondering why there is so little interest in the rolling road this year. People where quite upset last year when the road didn't turn up, so why the indifferance now?
Past events I have been to have always seen a crowd around the road all day, it has always been a point of interest, and RV8 noise!
I've got no worries about putting our cars on there, are people afraid of there cars going bang? Or is it the extra £35 on top of the fuel to get there this year? I would dearly like some feedback on this.
Yours expectantly, Steve. smile

ralph350i

791 posts

177 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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Hi Steve
Am new to tvr, but have had many a powerfull car most over 400bhp and i hate roading roads for some strange reason, i always thought it would damage my car and for older cars i defo would not, as all the time and effort put in to it i,ll be really pissed off if it went bang, but most of my mates love them so horse for courses mate and good luck.

Regards

Ralph

mrzigazaga

18,816 posts

195 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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I may go on it especially as they offer a tune up as well..Is that all for £35?..Cheers..Ziga

B@man

1,486 posts

234 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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If it doesn't go bang on the road it won't go bang on the rollers, the guys used in previous years really know their stuff and make sure that they don't over rev the lump or let any of the temps or pressures go out of range and as they can read AFR during the run they can and will abort the run before any damage occurs the only scary part it you are usually behind the wheel when you give it the beans, it's a bit different standing next to the car at the time !

TOPTON

1,514 posts

266 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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I've been wondering why the take up hasn't been better. Disapointing really, especially after the comments on the no show last year.

I can't see any reason the car would blow up on one. It doesn't get any different treatment than it would get on a spirited drive. In fact it is probably safer as B@man says, they are reading the cars output so will know when to back off if something is not right before it goes pop.

Its not so much of a tune up zig, it is an adjustment of the air/fuel mixture if running lean or rich to get optimum performance. They usually charge extra for tweeking but said they wouldn't for us on the day.


Maybe everyone is frightened of it being like when Top Gear done it with some old classics. Lots of pony's have dissapeared. laugh


mrzigazaga

18,816 posts

195 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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Hi Mate..Im not too worried about the horses..I have a pony every morning..hehe..Seriously though when i had mine on a rolling road last year it came out at 123bhp and that was with only 5 cylinders working..SO..123/5 cylinders = 24.6 per cylinder x 6 cylinders = 147.6bhp...Hopefully with the airbox mod i will be back to the original 150bhp which im happy with really..It would be interesting to find out and at that price it cant be sniffed at, I paid quadruple that last year!!..(Local RR)

Edited by mrzigazaga on Sunday 11th March 09:10

Mr Tank

5,799 posts

305 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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Hi

The company we are using are used by the Griff Growl for the last few years without problems. As Tony said they will be watching there equipment all the time so they should see a problem before it happens!

Andy

assynt road

Original Poster:

379 posts

217 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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TOPTON said:
Maybe everyone is frightened of it being like when Top Gear done it with some old classics. Lots of pony's have dissapeared. laugh
Could well be!
Surely finding out if those pony's have gone walkabout would be the first step to rounding them up again to make your wedge drive even better.
idea

wink

zygalski

7,759 posts

175 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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There's always the chance of damage, especially if you take a car in which doesn't regularly get thrashed to within an inch of it's life for sustained periods of time...
Also of course no 2 RR's give the same figures, although I should think most are a bit inflated (gotta keep the punters happy) & so just how meaningful are the results? A before & after with regards to mods does make sense though.

Campbell

2,500 posts

313 months

Sunday 11th March 2012
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I dont know why people have these ideas that a RR will damage an engine, it the engine lets go it would most likly let go in the road when pushed.
A RR will be the best place to have the car checked out, as its been stated all the temps, pressures, gasses and timming can be checked and the knolage of the operator hearing and feeling whats going on will only push it as far as he thinks it will go.
My car has spent a lot of time on a RR resently getting fully mapped, its the only way to do it.
Dont be scared it wont kill the car and may find a fault that be hiding for you.

Cambelt

Mr Tank

5,799 posts

305 months

Sunday 11th March 2012
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Cambelt

Thats a drink we owe you for your great words of wisdom, see me at the bar at BBWF! biggrin

Andy

Campbell

2,500 posts

313 months

Sunday 11th March 2012
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Sorry chaps my spelling is rather bad hehe

Cambelt

TOPTON

1,514 posts

266 months

Sunday 11th March 2012
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zygalski said:
There's always the chance of damage, especially if you take a car in which doesn't regularly get thrashed to within an inch of it's life for sustained periods of time...
Also of course no 2 RR's give the same figures, although I should think most are a bit inflated (gotta keep the punters happy) & so just how meaningful are the results? A before & after with regards to mods does make sense though.
There's always a chance of damage while driving on the road, so unless you drive like Miss Daisy any spirited take off from a standstill could do it. You don't have to be doing 130 at 5.5k revs to break things. So I would say it is safer on a RR as there is no other external input affecting the car. eg flucktuating (?) pedal movement, road vibration,

RR's sound worse for the car than they are because you (the owner/ usual driver) are standing beside the car while it's being run through its rev range. So you hear someting not usually heard, the full output from the exhausteek, rather than sat in the driver seat where there is usually a lot less exhaust noise, beause of wind, trye and road noises.

Unless you are a regular on a RR, the results are the only one's you will have as a starter point, you will either be happy or try and improve things.

Anyway, I'm not trying to persuade anyone to do it. If we don't get the figures up, the guy won't be coming, simples. cry

voltage_maxx

368 posts

239 months

Sunday 11th March 2012
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As posted in another thread, I would love to have my wedge on the Rolling Road, but I can't commit to it as the poor old thing isn't on the road yet.
It really SHOULD be on the road for then, but don't want to flush £35 down the drain in case any other problems occur before then!

vampire222

433 posts

179 months

Sunday 11th March 2012
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I only see the use if you're gonna tune the engine management too. Other than that it's just bragging rights and mobile rolling roads aren't in my book for being accurate either!

Wedg1e

27,041 posts

295 months

Sunday 11th March 2012
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Had mine on the RR at BBWF a couple of years back, results suggest it's pretty good considering I cobbled the injection together from non-standard and modified parts, then tuned it by the seat of my Tesco jeans biggrin
Only 256bhp and 280 lb.ft, air:fuel curve flatter than a witches tit, not bad for an amateur, I thought.
Maybe I should put the original NCK-ported inlet manifold back on and have another run this year...

Jonny weggie

1,607 posts

221 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Lack of interest could be because of the Money up front factor !!!!

For me i dont want to book in and find out they cant connect to the Mega squirt system, that's the rteason i'm waiting to talk to the chap down there.

jonny.

Mr Tank

5,799 posts

305 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Jonny

Problem is he will not come unless we pay him for ten cars £350.00 thus the reason why the money up front.

If we don't have the paid cars then he will not come! So you would not have the chance to chat with him!

But if he could not accomadate you on the day then its a case for a refund! No problem there!

Andy

BadRed

3,450 posts

258 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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I must admit I was a little frightened, will it go bang etc, but once you see how the RR works and how the blokes look after your car then its great. You can learn a lot for £35. The first year the 450 went on it only made 265, then after a winter of work and £86.50 worth of new bits it made 294 RESULT.

Go on give it a go, you know you want to biggrin

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

243 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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I'm still not 100% I'll have a running car else I would put myself down.

I've had the racer on the rollers all day when I got the Emeral ECU mapped, and the V8 in that is just a old LR engine with just a race Camshaft, so as said it very rare to blow an engine on the rollers, unless you have tunned the nuts off it and trying to get every last bit of performance, and this more likely with a turbo car.