2007 passat tdi sport dsg a good idea?
2007 passat tdi sport dsg a good idea?
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z0rT10ok

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13 posts

170 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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Hi,

I'm on the verge of buying the above model Passat (immaculate 2007 78,000 miles, actually paid a deposit and going to pick it up on Monday). Now even though they have a good review most places I presume that I must be overly paranoid because I've spent the weekend worrying about it and searching the Internet to see it there are any major problems with them.

Low and behold I've come across what seems to be a major fault with the DSG gearbox so I thought that I'd see what people on here thought about them as I've always had a great response to my questions in the past.

Should I walk away now, even if it means loosing the deposit? (it was only a a small one so thats no problem really)

Are the problems overstated? Is it just a few people making a lot of noise?

Are they horreddously expensive to fix?

Is there any way I could go back and determine if it's likely to go wrong in the future before I pay the balance? (it seemed great when I took it for a test drive)? e.g. are there any tell tales?

Or am I panicking about nothing?

Cheers in advance

Gareth

Edited by z0rT10ok on Sunday 11th March 09:29

cuprabob

17,533 posts

234 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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There are a lot of scare stories about teh DSG and yes they can be expensive to fix. Most common failure is the Mechatronic Unit which costs circa £1,500 to replace.

The signs are the gearchanges are clunky and lack smothness.

It's important that the gearbox oil and filter are changed every 40k miles so check it has been done at 40k miles abd it will be due another now, Cost is £179 at a dealer.


z0rT10ok

Original Poster:

13 posts

170 months

Sunday 11th March 2012
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Sorry Hora, I don't understand what you mean?

redgriff500

28,982 posts

283 months

Sunday 11th March 2012
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I know several traders who won't touch DSGs having been stung with failures and costing between £3500 - 5000 to fix.

Absolutely no warning of failure either.

VidalBaboon

9,074 posts

235 months

Sunday 11th March 2012
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No buy BMW.

VidalBaboon

9,074 posts

235 months

Sunday 11th March 2012
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DSG will be the least of your worries.

anonymous-user

74 months

Sunday 11th March 2012
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VidalBaboon said:
DSG will be the least of your worries.
What are the bigger things to worry about on these cars - I'm curious?

VidalBaboon

9,074 posts

235 months

Sunday 11th March 2012
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yellowbentines said:
VidalBaboon said:
DSG will be the least of your worries.
What are the bigger things to worry about on these cars - I'm curious?
My oil pump just shat itself, luckily no damage to the engine or turbo (spotted the low oil pressure & shut down pretty fast). If I hadn't taken it upon myself to find a solution, I would be waiting another 6 weeks for an oil pump balance assembly as it's on back order from VW. There are people that have been waiting since November for this part!! Oh and it's over £900+VAT + Fitting + rectifying anything else that's been eaten by lack of oil.

Funnily enough there's nothing wrong with the pump itself, it just loses drive and the engine sts itself pretty quickly- it's a £3 part that fails.

Some people have seen 5 figure rebuilds from VAG with this engine, this is on top of the early ones with chain issues. A car of this vintage, you'd be lucky to see any good will.



  • Airbag wiring loom issues
  • Injector issues (now a recall)
  • E-Brake issues which have stranded me on occasion (each caliper is £250odd + VAT + Fitting)
  • Sticking Turbo Vanes
  • Rust (mine needed a new boot lid, and respray of the roof & drivers door)
  • DMF failure
  • Radiators rot out (although I've read about porous head somewhere), tell tale is smell of coolant & an undetectable leak for ages. I was loosing 0.5L every 1000miles and couldn't find any traces.
Mine is an 06 140 'Sport' Estate, whilst hugely comfortable it's by far the biggest bag of ste I've ever owned. Buy Jap or buy BMW would be my advice. smile



ETA:

  • Key reader problems
And not so much a problem, but the tyres are a weird size (read, overly expensive) and are usually under specced (97 load rating) and go out of shape. The do tend to eat the tyres alot, even with an annual alignment check (which is usually around £120 due to it being fully adjustable front and rear) so add that on to every tyre change.


Edited by VidalBaboon on Sunday 11th March 23:47

Fox-

13,482 posts

266 months

Sunday 11th March 2012
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VidalBaboon said:
Buy Jap or buy BMW would be my advice. smile
You'd be very nieve to expect a 2007ish BMW to be a paragon of reliability in comparison to something from VW. Ever increasing reliability issues are something that is plaguing most European manufacturers.

anonymous-user

74 months

Sunday 11th March 2012
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VidalBaboon said:
hugely comfortable
So apart from the oil pump issues, DSG, key reader problems, rust, DMF failures, injector issues, airbag wiring loom issues, sticking turbo vanes, rotting radiators and e-brake issues, they're pretty good, right?





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VidalBaboon

9,074 posts

235 months

Sunday 11th March 2012
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Fox- said:
VidalBaboon said:
Buy Jap or buy BMW would be my advice. smile
You'd be very nieve to expect a 2007ish BMW to be a paragon of reliability in comparison to something from VW. Ever increasing reliability issues are something that is plaguing most European manufacturers.
Not nieve, I understand every manufacturer has their problems with individual models.

I've listed all the things that have gone wrong with mine in 2 years. I'd choose a BMW 318d every time if I had to do it again. Can't be any worse than the above.

Our old 2004 Corolla T3 (donated to my parents) has 170,000miles on it, and is still running on the same oil I put in it the last time it was serviced. It's never gone wrong, in mine or my parents ownership.

nickdrinkwater

839 posts

210 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Hi, I bought a Passat TDI on an 07 plate, 101k miles, back in August of last year. Went for the 1.9 model as I'd heard about the potential reliability issues with the 2.0 engine. I'd steer clear of the 2.0s.

The only problem I've had so far in almost 9k has been with the parking brake being sometimes reluctant to engage and have to turn the ignition on and off a couple of times to fix. Looking online and also hooking up a VCDS cable suggests it's the switch itself at fault, apparently costing £50-75 to fix.

I did have the timing belt changed after I'd bought the car, and other than topping up the oil haven't done anything else to it yet.

Good points:
- Spacious, good storage spaces inside
- Decent spec as long as you go for the SE upwards
- Good on fuel on the motorway (c50mpg with cruise set at 70mph, I often drive from Essex to Nottingham using the M25 and M1 and the computer returns 55-58 MPG)
- 60/40 motorway/town driving and will do 750+ miles on a 70l tank of diesel
- Steers nicely, much better in the bends than the old B5 model

Bad points:
- Not so good on fuel around town as takes a while to warm up, if you're only using for short runs expect 30 mpg
- Interior doesn't feel as well built as the previous B5 Passat I had as it rattles a bit
- Boot opening size can be inconvenient, just as with any saloon car
- Not particularly fast

Edit to Add: My car is a 5-speed manual, heard a few DSG horror stories too...

Edited by nickdrinkwater on Monday 12th March 00:04