Strange email to Car ad for sale on TVRCC - Scam ?

[gsx600]

Hi guys, put the black 350 on TVRCC as finally got MOT and bonnet painted, Got this reply and seem to think something not quite right.

Anyone else here be concerned ?

Goodday ,

I am located in the West Africa .I will like to purchase your Car but can only make payment in form of Bank Draft.I am being owed £11,985 by a gentleman in the United Kingdom that I wanted to buy a Truck from before I discovered your Car.



Thus, I will instruct him to send you the payment.When you get the Bank Draft ,you should cash it and then deduct the £7,000 due for your Car and have the rest sent to my international shipper based in Europe via moneygram transfer.When this is done,he will come over to your location for the pick-up.

The shipper are actually making other deliveries for me in the United Kingdom and I plan to pay for their services with the overage so I need your assurances that the excess funds will be promptly sent so there will be no delay charges,though I know the appropriate authorities to report to if anything happens to my funds.

This arrangement is best for me and if allright by you,I will
need the following info:

1)Condition of the Car.
2)Name on check
3)Address check should be mailed to
4)Contact phone
5)Any other info

Hope to hear from you soon.



Capt.Jibola

[MrFlibbles]

Its a scam!

[richa]

SCAM!

I've had a similar one for my 390. A quick search on the web for the company led me to something like the Rover P6 owners club, where someone had receive the same email as I did. He followed it up to be offered the same sort of financial arrangement as you have described.

I haven't bothered responding.

Rich.

[d p - 400se]

I sold a go kart on the web recently and must have had 20 - 30 replies along these lines. Definate scam, didnt bother replying to any of them.

[mikeb]

We should track these B*&^%^&s down and have them all shot.

Same goes for the other Nigerian scammers where this guy needs to transfer a couple of million out of his country before his family get deported due to some military take over or something and he s willing to pay you to handle his money for him - all you do is then send him your bank details..... and bingo all YOUR loot is gone.

These people should get a proper job and stop trying F*&k over other human beings for a quick buck.

Just my humble opinion, thats the trouble with me, too liberal! ;-)

MikeB

[FourWheelDrift]

Ted's email filter normally get's these scam emails. Must have been one to escape the net.

[montegogt]

I had a similar one last year. I think mine was Dutch. Anyway I was offered £9500 for my 350i, if I wired £3000 to this "agent" and he would arrange to collect the car. Sure I said, lets have the £9500 in the bank 1st though. Blow me down, after several weeks a cheque for £9500 arrives in a brown envelope with a sheet out of a shorthand note book wrapped around it. No name, nothing. Interesting part was the cheque was from the liquidator of a failed company. Needless to say I e-mailed the agent and said it wasn't available, and where shall I send his cheque back to. Never heard anymore. I wonder if it's just a money laundering scam rather than actually wanting your car at all?

[jmorgan]

There was something on a consumer program about getting the cheque and the sellers still lost out. Something to do with the way cheques are cleared. Put it in your bank and it shows up but when the cheque gets through the system properly its refused. By then car has gone and you are x amount of money in the red etc. At least thats what I seem to remember of it.

[streaky]

mikeb said:

We should track these B*&^%^&s down and have them all shot. Same goes for the other Nigerian scammers where this guy needs to transfer a couple of million out of his country before his family get deported due to some military take over or something and he s willing to pay you to handle his money for him - all you do is then send him your bank details..... and bingo all YOUR loot is gone.

There is actually a governemnt-sponsored school for fraudsters just outside Jes (in Nigeria). The whole country is a scam. To get a crate of beer you need a crate of empties first. So a kid sits outside the liquour stores selling crates of empty bottles. You buy a crate, take it inside, give it to the salesman, pay for your beer (or whatever) ... and the crate of empties cycles round to be bought again. Most stores have only two or three crates of empties!

montegogt said:

I had a similar one last year. I think mine was Dutch. Anyway I was offered £9500 for my 350i, if I wired £3000 to this "agent" and he would arrange to collect the car. Sure I said, lets have the £9500 in the bank 1st though. Blow me down, after several weeks a cheque for £9500 arrives in a brown envelope with a sheet out of a shorthand note book wrapped around it. No name, nothing. Interesting part was the cheque was from the liquidator of a failed company. Needless to say I e-mailed the agent and said it wasn't available, and where shall I send his cheque back to. Never heard anymore. I wonder if it's just a money laundering scam rather than actually wanting your car at all?

Too small a sum (even when repeated many times) to interest money-launderers. They work with at least two extra noughts on the sums they're handling. In these sort of cases, they cancel the cheque after they've got the car. This can happen even after you've apparently got "cleared funds" in your account, and it can happen with UK-based banks too! I have heard of it happening weeks afterwards, when the issuer of the cheque claims that the signature is a forgery or unauthorised (if a corporate cheque), or points out that the words and figures differ, or that the cheque is wrongly dated. The banks don't check (no pun intended) these things any longer and few people really check all the details on a cheque they receive, and you have anyway to rely on the cheque clearing initially to "verify" the authenticity and authority of the signature. There might be a case for you suing the issuing bank ... but I wouldn't count on any success (even in the UK).

Streaky

PS - perhaps this should have been on SP&L - S