Cost of reshelling
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Allybong

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48 posts

172 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Hey folks, recently did an engine conversion on my car and being a 1996 Honda civic, rust has began to take place on the body work. Other than just sending it to the scrap yard, I have set my eyes on a new shell. A mint Jordan one. Has anyone have a rough idea how much it would cost for someone to transfer everything over? I'd rather reshell than buy a new motor as my car runs perfectly and it will basically still be my car in a sense.

Cheers,

Ally

crocodile tears

755 posts

166 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Theres a fair amount of labour involved.. I'm sure it would'nt make financial sense unless you did it yourself or love your car

(sorry I can't put a decent figure on it though)

Edited by crocodile tears on Monday 12th March 14:57

SMcP114

2,916 posts

212 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Is it a full rolling shell? Everything's a bit vague here, it could be something as simple as an engine swap?

falkster

4,258 posts

223 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Its a monster job - theres got to be a serious love for a car to do that. Ignore just the taking parts off one shell to put on another, theres the wiring which will be a ballache to take out, organise (especially if its got an alarm) and then refit plus the brake pipes etc which are another ballache.

Allybong

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48 posts

172 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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SMcP114 said:
Is it a full rolling shell? Everything's a bit vague here, it could be something as simple as an engine swap?
Sorry, well I'm in talks with the guy so waiting on a reply. It is a rolling shell with engine and gearbox but I rather without the engine.

JollyGrnMonster

887 posts

217 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Dont it myself a couple of times.

Wouldnt fancy laying the labour!!!


falkster

4,258 posts

223 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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JollyGrnMonster said:
Dont it myself a couple of times.

Wouldnt fancy laying the labour!!!
I think its the motivating yourself thats the worst bit, I didnt mind stripping a car and sorting the parts out for whats getting chucked or kept but then its starting on the donor shell.

Never again.

SMcP114

2,916 posts

212 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Allybong said:
SMcP114 said:
Is it a full rolling shell? Everything's a bit vague here, it could be something as simple as an engine swap?
Sorry, well I'm in talks with the guy so waiting on a reply. It is a rolling shell with engine and gearbox but I rather without the engine.
And what do you need to swap? Engine, box and loom, what about interior, suspension etc? And does it then need painted?

Engine and box is simple, if you couldn't do it yourself a few hundred quid would do it. If it's the full works, interior, paint etc then I'd have to ask myself if it's really worth it. The cost can be kept down if you strip the car and do as much as you can yourself, but some of it will be pricey.

Allybong

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48 posts

172 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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SMcP114 said:
And what do you need to swap? Engine, box and loom, what about interior, suspension etc? And does it then need painted?

Engine and box is simple, if you couldn't do it yourself a few hundred quid would do it. If it's the full works, interior, paint etc then I'd have to ask myself if it's really worth it. The cost can be kept down if you strip the car and do as much as you can yourself, but some of it will be pricey.
Thanks for your input.. I think looms would be my main concern as I know the facelift and preface lift differ. Suspension, interior and other are pretty much transferable like the engine as between the chassiss, they are basically 95% the same. My rear interior is already stripped out and I have had a few body shops to look at the rust and it will cost way over a grand for the job and that's not including a full respray. The shell I'm looking at has had a full respray, rust removed and new metal welded on and has seen no more than 1000 miles. Originally I did want a type r shell but insurance on a Japanese import will kill me hence why this Jordan shell will be ideal and I do intend to keep the car for a while.

Roberty

1,180 posts

192 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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crocodile tears said:
Theres a fair amount of labour involved.. I'm sure it would'nt make financial sense unless you did it yourself or love your car

(sorry I can't put a decent figure on it though)

Edited by crocodile tears on Monday 12th March 14:57
Even if he does love his car it still wouldn't make financial sense!

Finance doesn't give a flying fk about peoples feelings and infatuations!!

s3fella

10,524 posts

207 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Problem you'll have is with the identity of the car. If you resell into a full Jordan shell, I think you'll need the Jordan log book and run it as that, ie as the Jordan with an engine change etc.

If you try to use your own logbook, you'll be in all sorts of grief as the shell will have a different chassis number. And if you transfer it over, it is like you've ringed it!

If you get the v5, whilst it is a fair chunk of work, once the motor and gearbox are in, it is the sort of work that you can do bit by bit on the drive if you have space.

davepoth

29,395 posts

219 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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It'll cost a lot more than £1000 if you get someone else to do it, in any case.

Allybong

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48 posts

172 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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s3fella said:
Problem you'll have is with the identity of the car. If you resell into a full Jordan shell, I think you'll need the Jordan log book and run it as that, ie as the Jordan with an engine change etc.

If you try to use your own logbook, you'll be in all sorts of grief as the shell will have a different chassis number. And if you transfer it over, it is like you've ringed it!

If you get the v5, whilst it is a fair chunk of work, once the motor and gearbox are in, it is the sort of work that you can do bit by bit on the drive if you have space.
Yeah I don't think transferring the identity of engine in the Jordan is much of a problem as my civic will be scrapped anyway and all I need to do is notify the dvla etc etc

anonymous-user

74 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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It might be running perfectly now, but by the time you have stripped everything, transfered it over to the "new" shell, then i guarantee it won't be ;-) (and the rattles from the dash will drive you insane.......)

crocodile tears

755 posts

166 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Roberty said:
crocodile tears said:
Theres a fair amount of labour involved.. I'm sure it would'nt make financial sense unless you did it yourself or love your car

(sorry I can't put a decent figure on it though)

Edited by crocodile tears on Monday 12th March 14:57
Even if he does love his car it still wouldn't make financial sense!

Finance doesn't give a flying fk about peoples feelings and infatuations!!
very good point hehe

Allybong

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48 posts

172 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Max_Torque said:
It might be running perfectly now, but by the time you have stripped everything, transfered it over to the "new" shell, then i guarantee it won't be ;-) (and the rattles from the dash will drive you insane.......)
How can you "guarantee" this?

Steffan

10,362 posts

248 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Allybong said:
Max_Torque said:
It might be running perfectly now, but by the time you have stripped everything, transfered it over to the "new" shell, then i guarantee it won't be ;-) (and the rattles from the dash will drive you insane.......)
How can you "guarantee" this?
Experience.

Reshelled cars are consistently notorious for lacking all the detail fitting production lines achieve. Hence the reason virtually all cars are written off if they require reshelling.

Unless you have done this you cannot appreciate the amount of work required or the extent of the fettling required. to get the fit and contact needed for every single component to function as it should.

Good luck to the OP if he attempts this. I fear disappointment in the end result.

Allybong

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48 posts

172 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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I wouldn't believe it would so much problems as mentioned like rattles etc. as it is almost like doing an engine swap which I already have done.. Making sure the engine is in good condition and finding someone who can do a really good job of it I couldn't see how rattles or any major problems.

HustleRussell

25,951 posts

180 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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OP- you seem to have already convinced yourself so this thread doesn't really have a purpose!?

Allybong

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48 posts

172 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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HustleRussell said:
OP- you seem to have already convinced yourself so this thread doesn't really have a purpose!?
Havnt got a definite answer on the rough cost of reshelling? I am certain I want to go ahead but I want to see what people have been paying etc