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The Excession

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11,669 posts

279 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Just dragged this one out of the archives for a quick listen and found myself playing the whole album.

I'd forgotten just how depressing (though strangely uplifting) most of Marrillion's music was back then.

Haven't listened to it for years and years, but my god Fish could write some lines...

It could almost wreck your head when you can sing along to these old songs you haven't heard for so long.

There's something about it, now so dated musically, yet it seemed so important at the time and then when you really listen to what he's singing about you realise it's all bang on the money.

Was his entire musical career based upon bad female vibes? hehe


ETA - Just of to play Mispent Childhoodly Abusedey Album.....


Edited by The Excession on Tuesday 13th March 21:56

kiteless

12,556 posts

233 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Marillion cloud9

Under-rated on three counts for me: Fish's lyrics, Rothery's guitar lines, and Trewavas' bass playing. Steve's solo on Sugar Mice is just perfectly judged, and Derek's lyrics sometimes more so.

So here I am once more
In the playground of the broken hearts
One more experience, one more entry, in a diary self-penned
Just another emotional suicide
Overdosed on sentiment and pride

Or

Your perimeter of courtiers jerk like celluloid puppets
As you stutter, paralysed, with rabbit's eyes
Searing the shadows, flooding the wings
To seek elusive salvation from the understudy's lips
Retrieve the soliloquy, maintain the obituary
My cue-line in the last act
And you sit in silent solitude waiting for the prompt

Fugazi (the track) is pretty desolate, isn't it?

Soundtrack to my teenage years (along with Gabriel's Genesis).


The Excession

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Tuesday 13th March 2012
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kiteless said:
Soundtrack to my teenage years.
Me too....

Who left the cap off the toothpaste tube?hehe

ETA:
But he was seriously fked up by/with or something because of wimmin yes

Edited by The Excession on Tuesday 13th March 23:12

kiteless

12,556 posts

233 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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The Excession said:
e too....

Who left the cap off the toothpaste tube?hehe

ETA:
But he was seriously fked up by/with or something because of wimmin yes

Edited by The Excession on Tuesday 13th March 23:12
Well, he was when writing Punch & Judy clearly yes



The Excession

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Wednesday 14th March 2012
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kiteless said:
Well, he was when writing Punch & Judy clearly yes
So what was 'warm wet circles' all about?

Here's one for you.... Rovveeerrreee looks like one of those alien thingies, but my God the boy can play guitar... but not a Fish in sight (way too much Robbie Williams wannabe for my liking) but hey ho

Here's the link

and it just doesn't compare to even slightly to this or this


kiteless

12,556 posts

233 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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The Excession said:
o what was 'warm wet circles' all about?
Clutching At Straws (the album) was all about Fish struggling with his alcohol problem. Much of the LP is centred on either lone drinking, or celebratory drinking.

Consider some lyrics to Sugar Mice:

So if you want my address, it's No.1 at the end of the bar. Where I sit with the broken angels, clutching at straws and nursing our scars.

Warm Wet Circles alludes to a drunken walk back to a hotel.



The Excession

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Wednesday 14th March 2012
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kiteless said:
Warm Wet Circles
Breaks my heart every time I hear it.


(Maybe we should ask for the thread title to be changed?)

There's a whole heap of Marillion lyrics that as a lad doing my A Levels a couple of us used to listen to and read and analyse along side our English Lit Shakespere home work.

For some reason Fish's words always seemed a lot closer to home than the 'crap' they were trying to teach me in school...

Funny that, and given my parents pretty much ignored me and yet thought it sensible to force me to listen to Bach, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Elgar etc etc every time we sat at the table to eat some food.

These fkers were never interested in Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Jethro Tull, or even the Vapors, Nirvana, Duran Duran or The Macc Lads!

I will always rate Fish as a great poet/song-writer of our time (bit lost now admitedly because I'm in my 40s), but I'd put him right up there with Ian Anderson, and even Lee Scratch Perry, and Asian Dub Foundation as monumental expressionists of our current time.

What really pissies me off is that the likes of jedward,lady gaga, or rhiana are now considered something to aspire to. Marillion will always hold a grip on a dark and unpleasant part of my life, No matter how hard I try I can't change that -

probedb

824 posts

248 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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And here's me thinking you were talking about the band Fugazi wink

The Excession

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Wednesday 14th March 2012
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probedb said:
And here's me thinking you were talking about the band Fugazi wink
Shirely that would just leave in this room waiting... wink

(top band Fugazi btw - seen them live a few times back in my yoof)

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

277 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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"Currently residing in the "where are they now?" file"

Wonderfully put.

kiteless

12,556 posts

233 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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mrmaggit said:
"Currently residing in the "where are they now?" file"

Wonderfully put.
Indeed.

Irony times 10.



gazza285

11,111 posts

237 months

Thursday 15th March 2012
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probedb said:
And here's me thinking you were talking about the band Fugazi wink
Top quality tunes.

sawman

5,166 posts

259 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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The Excession said:
o what was 'warm wet circles' all about?

Here's one for you.... Rovveeerrreee looks like one of those alien thingies, but my God the boy can play guitar... but not a Fish in sight (way too much Robbie Williams wannabe for my liking) but hey ho

Here's the link

and it just doesn't compare to even slightly to this or this
In the early 90's I saw marillion play live at the UEA, Norwich - probably not long after Fish quit, they were good, but a few weeks later saw Fish play in a local pub in norwich, he had a pretty tight band with him and to be honest it was no contest, he blew marillions performance away completely.



Fer

7,773 posts

309 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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They were my local band. I still have lots of tour programs... I wonder what a Reading 82 programme is worth?

I also got the Script gate fold cover sighed outside Earth Records.

kcrimson

83 posts

200 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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I recently bought the Clutching at Straws remaster (I remember buying it when it came out in 1988) which I hadn't heard for years and years.

It's an absolutely cracking album which hasn't dated at all. Superb lyrics too. Top tune for me is White Russians.

Racing the clouds home........

qube_TA

8,405 posts

274 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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Marillion were the best thing in the world, sure they borrowed the idea from Genesis but in those 4 LP's and several B sides they redefined that genre and made it their own.

Fish' solo and modern Marillion stuff is nice enough (in places) but nothing like as dark, clever or as interesting as it was. Doesn't seem to be anything like them since that could compare.

I heard Grendel which I thought was amazing but didn't hear Jester until after Fugazi, which I think is their strongest album by far.

Where are the poets?



kcrimson

83 posts

200 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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Personally I started to lose interest with them around the Holidays in Eden album which I thought was too middle of the road.

Having heard good reviews of Marbles I got that which is a return to form.

Then I got the follow up Somwhere Else and I thought it was rubbish and lost interest again.

qube_TA

8,405 posts

274 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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Marbles is great, but it was a deliberate nod to their older stuff, the rest of it is generic rock.

They're very good musicians and worth a punt live but never been able to get into their newer stuff.


rumpelstiltskin

2,805 posts

288 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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I hated Marillion with a passion,i mean i really did!Kayleigh just made me feel sick when i heard it,but!Seen them at Knockhill race circuit in Scotland a few years ago and was completely blown away,absolutely fantastic!Such a nice,down to earth humorous guy as well,up for taking the mick out of himself too.One song they played on the day i can't remember the name off but it was fantastic.Im going to waste my time trying this but it might be the vaguest 'guess what this song is' by my remote memories,right,this is all i remember,Fish loudly going "HUH,HUH,HUH,HUH Really loud and his voice seemed to echo back and forward??,just stuck in my head and it worked great live,that's all i can remember lol.I'd be stunned if someone gets it!:-)

Gargamel

16,344 posts

290 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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A friend of mine handed in the lyrics to assassin as his o'level English coursework.... A +


Great band and heart of Lothian is one of my favourites.... Though I think it is a little dated now