RE: New Enzo to follow F12berlinetta
RE: New Enzo to follow F12berlinetta
Wednesday 14th March 2012

New Enzo to follow F12berlinetta

You wait for one new 700hp+ Ferrari and then two come along (almost) at once



Hot on the heels of the reveal last week of the F12 Berlinetta, the most powerful and high-performance road-going Ferrari ever, comes news of the unveiling of, er, the most powerful and high-performance road-going Ferrari ever.

The long-awaited Enzo replacement will be revealed to potential customers at the end of the year, according to reports quoting Ferrari chairman Luca di Montezemolo.

Ferrari always waits until it has got a year's worth of production on its order books before new cars are revealed to the general public, which means we'll see it at either the Detroit motor show in January 2013 or at Geneva a couple of months later, depending on how excited those potential customers get.

The fastest Ferrari ever, until the next one
The fastest Ferrari ever, until the next one
The Ferrari boss gave hints that it would be pushing on the door of affordable. "We want to surprise people not just in terms of price but also with the car itself," he told Automotive News Europe at the Geneva show.

Expected to use a mid-mounted V12 in a carbon-fibre chassis, it's not likely to use the Enzo name this time round.

Until it arrives however, the newly unveiled F12 can shake its G-stringed booty in the limelight without fear of being top trumped. With an F1-matching 730bhp from the 6.3-litre naturally aspirated V12, the Pininfarina designed car can reach 62mph in 3.1 seconds, beating the 458 by three tenths. Ferrari claims it's the firm's most aerodynamically efficient car too, thanks to innovations like active brake cooling, which opens vanes to the cooling ducts only at high operating temperatures.

Production of the car starts in September, with right hand drive cars rolling out of the factory three months after that. The Italian price has been set at 270,000 Euros, with Ferrari UK estimating we'll pay between £240,000-£250,000.

If you've got on one on order and fancy chucking another £14,500 at it, then head to the classifieds to pick up the F12 WOW plate. Imagine the power behind that air punch when Ferrari announced the name...

Speaking of which we also got the low-down on the fussy typography of the name, which should technically be F12berlinetta. "It's down to the trademark registered name usage. We had to term the car exactly that way," a UK spokesman told PistonHeads. It's also why the California is only ever called the Ferrari California in the firm's literature. Someone else has the vehicle naming rights to just 'California'. You can't win everything...

 

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WCZ

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11,240 posts

214 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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I'm not sure how surprised anyone's going to be at the price unless it's sub 500k

jon-

16,534 posts

236 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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How did the subject of this thread end up "F12 World Of Warcraft" heheconfused

I'm /really/ looking forward to the next Enzo, I like the way Ferrari have been taking their cars recently.

soad

34,222 posts

196 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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Exciting stuff.

Mini1275

11,098 posts

202 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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Hopefully it's better looking than the recent batch of Ferrari models.

I have my doubts though.

garypotter

1,996 posts

170 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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super car for super money, for the super few.

I grew up with pictures of the F40 and MCL F1 on the wall so it does not beat these 2 for me but I am sure it will sell.

On the Enzo has the price of these stabilised or are they still increasing or plummeting like the Veyrons??
Too lazy to check the world for enzo for sale.

PhilboSE

5,592 posts

246 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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garypotter said:
On the Enzo has the price of these stabilised or are they still increasing or plummeting like the Veyrons??
Enzos relatively stable but prices only going in one direction - up.

Veyrons trading below £650,000.

The Danimal

178 posts

175 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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"It's also why the California is only ever called the Ferrari California in the firm's literature. Someone else has the vehicle naming rights to just 'California'."

Is that other "someone" VW with it's modern camper van?

suffolk009

6,985 posts

185 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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This copyright naming stuff is just plain silly. How would anyone confuse a Ferrari California with a camper van? And, wasn't it Mercedes that prevented Lotus from using the name Sprint just incase anyone might confuse it with one of their vans?

veevee

1,458 posts

171 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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WCZ said:
I'm not sure how surprised anyone's going to be at the price unless it's sub 500k
€10m

WCZ

Original Poster:

11,240 posts

214 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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veevee said:
€10m
"The Ferrari boss gave hints that it would be pushing on the door of affordable. "We want to surprise people not just in terms of price but also with the car itself," he told Automotive News Europe at the Geneva show. "

ha, you are right in the sense that the word 'affordable' is just the author of the articles interpretation of that quotation, the car could actually be suprisingly overpriced!

HeMightBeBanned

624 posts

198 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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Finding myself overcome with 'meh' at the prospect of another mental power, mega money car.

Streps

2,455 posts

186 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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The closest i will ever get to the car is driving it in forza. hehe
But it's always interesting to see the next big Ferrari. smile

Hope it looks nice.

BelfastBoy

779 posts

180 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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No doubt most of the limited production run is accounted for already, meaning that big reveals are largely irrelevant. Unless you're one of Ferrari's favoured clients, even a sudden lottery win is unlikely to result in the ability to actually buy the new Enzo!

Davey S2

13,369 posts

274 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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HeMightBeBanned said:
Finding myself overcome with 'meh' at the prospect of another mental power, mega money car.
Same here. I find myself drooling over cars like Caterhams rather than Ferraris these days.

Glad that cars like this are still being built though.

mclwanB

643 posts

265 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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WCZ said:
"The Ferrari boss gave hints that it would be pushing on the door of affordable"
It's a long time since the price of even a base Ferrari was even remotely affordable new!

Fetchez la vache

5,850 posts

234 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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Bigger. Better. Faster. Obsolete

glm1977

199 posts

181 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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WCZ said:
veevee said:
€10m
"The Ferrari boss gave hints that it would be pushing on the door of affordable. "We want to surprise people not just in terms of price but also with the car itself," he told Automotive News Europe at the Geneva show. "

ha, you are right in the sense that the word 'affordable' is just the author of the articles interpretation of that quotation, the car could actually be suprisingly overpriced!
did you not read the part that mentioned the italian pricing - "Production of the car starts in September, with right hand drive cars rolling out of the factory three months after that. The Italian price has been set at 270,000 Euros, with Ferrari UK estimating we'll pay between £240,000-£250,000."

Which seems relatively affordable for that sort of car....

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

237 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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The price is to an degree irrelevant . . . . .I just hope that it looks better than the hideous "Enzo", or will Ferrari continue with their previous form and make their range topping ltd edition cars uglier than the last . . . 288 GTO (sublime)-> F40 (Brutal) -> F50 (great but not as good looking as 288 & 40) -> Enzo (So hideous that at least one owner had the body ripped off and replaced with something more suitable)

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

237 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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glm1977 said:
did you not read the part that mentioned the italian pricing - "Production of the car starts in September, with right hand drive cars rolling out of the factory three months after that. The Italian price has been set at 270,000 Euros, with Ferrari UK estimating we'll pay between £240,000-£250,000."

Which seems relatively affordable for that sort of car....
Not sure if it's the way the article is written, but that is the price and production schedule for the F12b smile

tommy vercetti

11,593 posts

183 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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Can't wait for the new Enzo, and i'm glad it's going to have a V12, always loved Ferrari V12s