Daft idea? Midsummer sea to slate-grey sea.
Daft idea? Midsummer sea to slate-grey sea.
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moribund

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Friday 16th March 2012
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Ever since Top Gear did it down south I been wondering about this idea for a run, just thought I'd pitch it up to see what people thought.

Start at sunset at St. Bees, after nice meal at a pub and some non-alcoholic drinks. 7 hours of driving over the passes, across the dales and moors, maybe up to Alston. Try and include some iconic spots such as Honister and Kirkstone Passes, Hawes road, Buttertubs, Blakey Ridge? Arrive at Whitby for sunrise and a fry-up at a fishermans cafe. Arbutts opens at 6am?

Start people off at 2 minute intervals. Could make it a bit of a treasure hunt, say you're given a list of landmarks to take a photo of on the way to make sure everyone does the miles :-)

Would this be a fun adventure or would the fact that the route would be a bit contrived to make it last until dawn ruin it?


moribund

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237 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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Could be small animal carnage driving those little roads all night though eek

And it wouldn't be the actual midsummers weekend as I'm at a wedding.

Didn't think this through, did I?

moribund

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237 months

Saturday 17th March 2012
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Route could be something like

this

balders118

5,905 posts

191 months

Saturday 17th March 2012
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I could be up for this, sounds like a laugh. Isn't sunrise in the middle of summer more like 4am though, not 6am?

YorkshirePudding

2,150 posts

208 months

Saturday 17th March 2012
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Sounds interesting, depends on what date you have in mind though.





moribund

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Saturday 17th March 2012
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You're right Balders, we'd be waiting around too long for the cafe so we'd have to cook our own bacon sarnies. Ben would love that!

If we went on the last Sat in June the sun would set at around 9:40, dark around 10:30, light again from 3:45am and sunrise proper at 4:30am.

We could watch the sun go down (assuming it's not raining...) and flag cars off from 10pm, aim for a 6 hour drive ending at Whitby Abbey?

YorkshirePudding

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208 months

Saturday 17th March 2012
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If I can get time off work count me in.

BlueMR2

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225 months

Saturday 17th March 2012
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For 7 hours driving you would probably need a few petrol stations along the way.

burriana

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277 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Taking pictures of landmarks might be a bit tricky too, being dark smile

A good idea in principle though. The only thing that set alarm bells ringing was the setting off at 2 minute intervals. That immediately changes it from a few mates having a drive out, to an organized event and, it would, whether we say otherwise or not, lead people into trying to catch the car in front. Not good when going over Buttertubs in the dark!

benjj

6,787 posts

186 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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burriana said:
Taking pictures of landmarks might be a bit tricky too, being dark smile

A good idea in principle though. The only thing that set alarm bells ringing was the setting off at 2 minute intervals. That immediately changes it from a few mates having a drive out, to an organized event and, it would, whether we say otherwise or not, lead people into trying to catch the car in front. Not good when going over Buttertubs in the dark!
Al is right.

You really need to set them off at 5 minute intervals to make it interesting wink

moribund

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Monday 19th March 2012
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benjj said:
Al is right.

You really need to set them off at 5 minute intervals to make it interesting wink
Knew you'd have something to say lol

benjj

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Monday 19th March 2012
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moribund said:
benjj said:
Al is right.

You really need to set them off at 5 minute intervals to make it interesting wink
Knew you'd have something to say lol
smile

I think it sounds pretty good. Sadly though I haven't really got a perfect car for it. I think something like an early duck tail 911 RS would be about right, it would keep you awake at least...


moribund

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Monday 19th March 2012
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burriana said:
The only thing that set alarm bells ringing was the setting off at 2 minute intervals. That immediately changes it from a few mates having a drive out, to an organized event and, it would, whether we say otherwise or not, lead people into trying to catch the car in front. Not good when going over Buttertubs in the dark!
Al, wise words, thanks. The eternal dilemma of a run out - how to make it fun without turning into something more serious. I think we've all been on fairly innocent runs where someone has still managed to pick up a scrape for one reason or another.

I think deep down I want to do an all night treasure hunt/12 car but without having to fit a cage or do hard navigation hehe Not a good idea!

So as a newbie to this sort of thing, is it possible for a run like this to work? Having a run out in a group works for a couple of hours but I can't see it being fun for 6 hours with more than 2 or 3 cars. Also given the premise there is already more structure to the drive than just a "run out". I feel like this is taking me into dangerous terittory where I could be held accountable if someone had a little incident, but with no liability insurance or MSA rules etc to fall back on. The whole "Joint Enterprise" thing is a bit scary.

moribund

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Monday 19th March 2012
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burriana said:
Taking pictures of landmarks might be a bit tricky too, being dark smile
Was thinking signposts etc, with a flash tongue out

Greensleeves

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226 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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If there's no timing involved then it's not a competition but officially you would need less than 13 cars and a waiver of permit to run it legally. If you're planning it as a "run" rather than a thrash then you won't draw attention to it. You could do it as a series of map references or way-points with no official route and/or have to answer clues on the way to keep the speeds down. You could run it as an economy run??? There could be twists such as getting a point for every MPG under / over manufacturers mpg specs as I assume that some og the cars may not be as economical as they could be.

I'm up for it.

jock mcsporran

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296 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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I'll add my name to the list if it's last weekend in June as suggested earlier. I might just have made it back from a 3000 mile jaunt round Europe in the Exige by then.

Dan_1981

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222 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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I'll keep on eye on this thread.

moribund

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Monday 30th April 2012
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Just so people don't get their hopes up, June is now fully booked for me so this daft idea will remain just a daft idea for this year!

therealpigdog

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220 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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I'm up for the daft idea - June is difficult for me to, but sounds like a good laugh. Will keep an eye on the thread.