Southern French terrorism.
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Mojocvh

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16,837 posts

293 months

Saturday 17th March 2012
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Having had both areas as my old stomping ground in the past, I find this shocking, but not that surprising, knowing the population demographics of the main conurbations.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17397354


DieselGriff

5,160 posts

290 months

Saturday 17th March 2012
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I have no real knowledge of the area so express surprise either way, I am reminded however that only a few years ago the RAF were also told not to wear uniform in Lincoln.

This is a sad state of affairs.

elster

17,517 posts

241 months

Saturday 17th March 2012
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As it is where my parents live I find it a bit surprising.

I know there is a huge military presence in the area, but I wouldn't have thought of anything in Montauban. Toulouse possibly, but not Montauban there is only really gypsies or pure bred racists. The main crime is further South.

The police have said they have no idea what they are dealing with: political, mentalist, drug deal or racist.

Happy82

15,078 posts

200 months

Saturday 17th March 2012
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I played against Montauban several years ago and thought the town was lovely, certainly nothing like Toulouse, Marseille and Carcassonne where you get the Arab ghetto no-go areas.

Pesty

42,655 posts

287 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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Some areas of Marseille really are fking horrid.

smegmore

3,091 posts

207 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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Pesty said:
Some areas of Marseille really are fking horrid.
The place should be nuked, even the gendarmes have no-go areas.

Happy82

15,078 posts

200 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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Pesty said:
Some areas of Marseille really are fking horrid.
It really does make you question the cultural reality of France, it's not quite the quiet cafe culture of poets and romantics that we're spoon fed laugh St Denis was a bloody shock when our coach driver took a wrong turn in Paris, jesus titty fking christ it was bad! I wanted to go back to the relative safety of Lozells in the West Mids eek

Mojocvh

Original Poster:

16,837 posts

293 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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smegmore said:
Pesty said:
Some areas of Marseille really are fking horrid.
The place should be nuked, even the gendarmes have no-go areas.
Well it is the first French city to have a majority Muslim population.

Happy82

15,078 posts

200 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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smegmore said:
Pesty said:
Some areas of Marseille really are fking horrid.
The place should be nuked, even the gendarmes have no-go areas.
You're not responsible for the ww2 bomb they've just unearthed there causing an evacuation are you ? hehe

Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Mojocvh said:
smegmore said:
Pesty said:
Some areas of Marseille really are fking horrid.
The place should be nuked, even the gendarmes have no-go areas.
Well it is the first French city to have a majority Muslim population.
Surely no connection?

elster

17,517 posts

241 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Now a shooting at a Jewish school in Toulouse.


smegmore

3,091 posts

207 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Happy82 said:
smegmore said:
Pesty said:
Some areas of Marseille really are fking horrid.
The place should be nuked, even the gendarmes have no-go areas.
You're not responsible for the ww2 bomb they've just unearthed there causing an evacuation are you ? hehe
Sadly, no. hehe

obob

4,193 posts

225 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Seems all 3 soldiers were ethnic minorities and now a shooting at a Jewish school. Is it another Anders Breivik?

elster

17,517 posts

241 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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obob said:
Seems all 3 soldiers were ethnic minorities and now a shooting at a Jewish school. Is it another Anders Breivik?
This is the 3rd incident of someone on the back of a scooter firing, whether it is a group or a single operator. Who knows?


obob

4,193 posts

225 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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elster said:
obob said:
Seems all 3 soldiers were ethnic minorities and now a shooting at a Jewish school. Is it another Anders Breivik?
This is the 3rd incident of someone on the back of a scooter firing, whether it is a group or a single operator. Who knows?
Same MO, so seem to be linked. 3 soldiers all confirmed to be of North African descent.

FourWheelDrift

92,387 posts

315 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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So soon after Sarkozy said there were too many foreigners in France. Maybe someone is trying to sort it for him.

"France prohibits by its penal code and by its press laws public and private communication which is defamatory or insulting, or which incites discrimination, hatred, or violence against a person or a group of persons on account of place of origin, ethnicity or lack thereof, nationality, race, specific religion, sex, sexual orientation, or handicap"

Bad timing for Mr Sarkozy's presidential campaign if the killer has been triggered by his statement.

davepoth

29,395 posts

230 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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FourWheelDrift said:
So soon after Sarkozy said there were too many foreigners in France. Maybe someone is trying to sort it for him.

"France prohibits by its penal code and by its press laws public and private communication which is defamatory or insulting, or which incites discrimination, hatred, or violence against a person or a group of persons on account of place of origin, ethnicity or lack thereof, nationality, race, specific religion, sex, sexual orientation, or handicap"

Bad timing for Mr Sarkozy's presidential campaign if the killer has been triggered by his statement.
One of his main contenders is the National Front...nah.

Mr_B

10,480 posts

274 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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The targets seems a bit mixed. Doesn't look so staightforward to me. Could still be someone else. I think it was reported that the soldiers had returned from Afghanistan. Add in the attack on Jews and it does leave it open.

poprock

1,987 posts

232 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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elster said:
As it is where my parents live I find it a bit surprising.

I know there is a huge military presence in the area, but I wouldn't have thought of anything in Montauban. Toulouse possibly, but not Montauban there is only really gypsies or pure bred racists. The main crime is further South.
Same here. I visited my Dad in his village just outside Montauban only last month. Sleepy, quiet, friendly. Same goes for Montauban itself. I know Toulouse has its problems, but Im shocked at this kicking off in the rural areas.

KB_S1

5,967 posts

260 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Mojocvh said:
Well it is the first French city to have a majority Muslim population.
Where did you get that figure?
What I have read suggests around 20-25% compared with 80% R.C.

The immigration figures are high in Marseilles, it is the main port for France to deal with Africa and beyond but the city population is still nearly 80% French born.
It has had very high risk areas for a long time (allegedly) due to the drug smuggling routes.