630, 645 or 650?
Discussion
Mrs ParanoidAndroid is looking for a car to replace her company car. Have been considering Audi S5's but this evening she's thrown a curveball in the form of the 6 series (previous generation). With pistonheads search down at the moment I've struggled to find much in the way of info on the various engine options. Just wondered what peoples thoughts on them are? She will only be doing about 8k miles per year so petrol isn't a huge factor.
Any thoughts on the cars, engines, must have options, running costs, things to look out for?
Cheers
Paranoid
Any thoughts on the cars, engines, must have options, running costs, things to look out for?
Cheers
Paranoid
My friend has just got a 645i and it makes an amazing noise! Its very thirsty at 22mpg but still makes me want one everytime I hear it pull away 
Don't know much about them but being a 60k motor I would say try and get one with full history and a used approved as they have a lot of gadgets etc. Oh and if you are thinking convertable have a look in the booth with top up as its tiny. With the top you'd be lucky to fit a set of golf clubs.
Don't know much about them but being a 60k motor I would say try and get one with full history and a used approved as they have a lot of gadgets etc. Oh and if you are thinking convertable have a look in the booth with top up as its tiny. With the top you'd be lucky to fit a set of golf clubs.
Thanks guys, what was the difference between 645i and 650i? Is it just the same engine but bigger displacement or is the 4.8 in the 650 a newer lump?
Not driven any yet, how does the 630i feel? Underpowered or is it okay?
Ps. Did look at pushing the boat out and consider M6's but don't think the wife would enjoy it quite as much as I would. v10
Not driven any yet, how does the 630i feel? Underpowered or is it okay?
Ps. Did look at pushing the boat out and consider M6's but don't think the wife would enjoy it quite as much as I would. v10
I'm currently seriously contemplating a 650i and started the following thread which is very useful with regard to the mpg..
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
On this basis you get very nearly the same mpg from the 650 as the 630 so it makes it a pretty simple choice for me!
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
On this basis you get very nearly the same mpg from the 650 as the 630 so it makes it a pretty simple choice for me!
630 would always leave you wondering what the v8 would have been like. They need the soundtrack IMO.
Total bargains at the current prices. 2 years and 20k miles in ours and it's never wanted for anything or let us down.
Oh, parts can be expensive, get one with warranty. I had my headlights done, cost £2000.
Total bargains at the current prices. 2 years and 20k miles in ours and it's never wanted for anything or let us down.
Oh, parts can be expensive, get one with warranty. I had my headlights done, cost £2000.
They were misting. Tried for warranty and they refused. Got it as good will and I paid the labour. Each light unit was something like £860 iirc.
The only issue with the 6 is that as they lose value, a minor Ian bang could end up writing it off.
My warranty costs me something like £65-70pcm. That's full cover and no excess though.
The only issue with the 6 is that as they lose value, a minor Ian bang could end up writing it off.
My warranty costs me something like £65-70pcm. That's full cover and no excess though.
Options;
My must haves were (excuse cut & paste from an Excel spreadsheet (sad, I know)
;
Sat Nav, Must have.
Logic 7 Must have and very impressive.
Upgraded leather (exclusive is nice and soft and my understanding is it wears better than the standard stuff which is quite "hard").
spoke wheels, shape is sensitive to wheels.
HUD (was not bothered about this, but now would not buy without)
Sport Vs SE
Sport seats (if an SE)
Blue tooth: important
Pana roof: reduces head room by a couple of inches, again not a deal breaker.
Cup Holder (not bothered either way)
6CD I listen to talking books, so important.
DAB Mine does not have this, but it would be nice.
ipod connection
Full leather ( leather on dashboard, not a deal breaker, but nice)
I thought the 630 used about 25% less fuel, but looks like you are already used to V8 fuel consumption. 650i is better on petrol than 645 (25MPG is the cut off on my fuel card, 650 qualifies, 645 does not). I have also read that the 2005 on were less prone to issues. Good luck!
My must haves were (excuse cut & paste from an Excel spreadsheet (sad, I know)
;Sat Nav, Must have.
Logic 7 Must have and very impressive.
Upgraded leather (exclusive is nice and soft and my understanding is it wears better than the standard stuff which is quite "hard").
spoke wheels, shape is sensitive to wheels.
HUD (was not bothered about this, but now would not buy without)
Sport Vs SE
Sport seats (if an SE)
Blue tooth: important
Pana roof: reduces head room by a couple of inches, again not a deal breaker.
Cup Holder (not bothered either way)
6CD I listen to talking books, so important.
DAB Mine does not have this, but it would be nice.
ipod connection
Full leather ( leather on dashboard, not a deal breaker, but nice)
I thought the 630 used about 25% less fuel, but looks like you are already used to V8 fuel consumption. 650i is better on petrol than 645 (25MPG is the cut off on my fuel card, 650 qualifies, 645 does not). I have also read that the 2005 on were less prone to issues. Good luck!
Thanks for the really useful info, all very helpful.
What do you think of this one? Low miles and main dealer but not sure whether it has all the right options as it only lists a few on the website. Mrs likes the colour combo! Its a bit far from us but can take a drive if it's worth looking.
It lists Professional navigation system with MP3 player - anyway of telling from the pics whether that is Logic7 or not?
http://www.sytner.co.uk/bmw/nottingham/search/bmw-...
Other option is to keep looking in specialist dealer/private sale for something.
What do you think of this one? Low miles and main dealer but not sure whether it has all the right options as it only lists a few on the website. Mrs likes the colour combo! Its a bit far from us but can take a drive if it's worth looking.
It lists Professional navigation system with MP3 player - anyway of telling from the pics whether that is Logic7 or not?
http://www.sytner.co.uk/bmw/nottingham/search/bmw-...
Other option is to keep looking in specialist dealer/private sale for something.
Hi,
Sorry, I cannot tell from the pictures. The Logic7 has it own section on the Idrive under entertainment. It also has a sub woofer under each seat. All logic7 cars seem to have a woofer & seperate tweeter just above the arm rest in the back seats.
Looks like it does not have the radar cruise control (works quite well) where it will apply the brakes if you get too close to the car in front and then accelerates back up to speed once the car in front has moved out of the way, without any intervention from you. You can also set the distance to the car in front (4 settings that appear on the HUD). Not a deal breaker but a wonderful toy!
I think there is quite a chunk of bargaining in that price also. Good luck.
Sorry, I cannot tell from the pictures. The Logic7 has it own section on the Idrive under entertainment. It also has a sub woofer under each seat. All logic7 cars seem to have a woofer & seperate tweeter just above the arm rest in the back seats.
Looks like it does not have the radar cruise control (works quite well) where it will apply the brakes if you get too close to the car in front and then accelerates back up to speed once the car in front has moved out of the way, without any intervention from you. You can also set the distance to the car in front (4 settings that appear on the HUD). Not a deal breaker but a wonderful toy!
I think there is quite a chunk of bargaining in that price also. Good luck.
aruck said:
5678 said:
Oh, parts can be expensive, get one with warranty. I had my headlights done, cost £2000.
What was wrong with the headlights to cost £2k?How much does a warranty cost roughly?
My experiences of owning a 645Ci for the last two days:
Official mpg (25) is more like 22mpg. V8 noise is essential in a car this size IMO, is a pleasure to hear at start up or pulling away hard.
You need the navigation package, media package and sports leather as a must.
Adaptive lights, Heads-up display are two rare options that don't appear often in the classifieds.
Dynamic drive package consists of Active Steering which critics slated for making the steering feel alien - personally I liked it on another car I test drove but it does have a tendency to change steering rack speed whilst mid-corner!
I'm sure I will think of more points that are actually of use later, but there really is a lot of car for what it will cost you.
Official mpg (25) is more like 22mpg. V8 noise is essential in a car this size IMO, is a pleasure to hear at start up or pulling away hard.
You need the navigation package, media package and sports leather as a must.
Adaptive lights, Heads-up display are two rare options that don't appear often in the classifieds.
Dynamic drive package consists of Active Steering which critics slated for making the steering feel alien - personally I liked it on another car I test drove but it does have a tendency to change steering rack speed whilst mid-corner!
I'm sure I will think of more points that are actually of use later, but there really is a lot of car for what it will cost you.
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