Four incredibly annoying things prospective employers do
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The OH is currently looking for a job. During her search we have identified four incredibly annoying things that prospective employers do. If you run a business, or work in HR, and recognize any of the following as things you're guilty of, SORT IT OUT!
Annoying thing number 1:
Advertising a role but failing to put a closing date for applications.
Annoying thing number 2:
Failing to remove a role from online locations where its advertised after the window for applications has closed. This tends to occur in conjunction with Annoying thing number 1.
Annoying thing number 3:
Advertising a salary band for a role but being resolutely unwilling to pay anything but the bottom of the salary band. In that case, just advertise the wage you are willing to pay so people with high levels of qualification and experience don't waste their time applying for jobs with mickey mouse wages.
Annoying thing number 4:
Advertising a role without first getting the budget for that role signed off, so the candidate is told "you're the front runner and this is what the offer will be, but we can't make you the offer formally until [insert random date several weeks into the future] because the budget hasn't been approved yet."
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Annoying thing number 1:
Advertising a role but failing to put a closing date for applications.
Annoying thing number 2:
Failing to remove a role from online locations where its advertised after the window for applications has closed. This tends to occur in conjunction with Annoying thing number 1.
Annoying thing number 3:
Advertising a salary band for a role but being resolutely unwilling to pay anything but the bottom of the salary band. In that case, just advertise the wage you are willing to pay so people with high levels of qualification and experience don't waste their time applying for jobs with mickey mouse wages.
Annoying thing number 4:
Advertising a role without first getting the budget for that role signed off, so the candidate is told "you're the front runner and this is what the offer will be, but we can't make you the offer formally until [insert random date several weeks into the future] because the budget hasn't been approved yet."
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king retards Edited by MitchT on Monday 19th March 08:57
MitchT said:
The OH is currently looking for a job. During her search we have identified four incredibly annoying things that prospective employers do. If you run a business, or work in HR, and recognize any of the following as things you're guilty of, SORT IT OUT!
Annoying thing number 1:
Advertising a role but failing to put a closing date for applications.
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Agree with the others but can't agree with this one.Annoying thing number 1:
Advertising a role but failing to put a closing date for applications.
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THere is no rule that there has to be a closing date.
We leave our adverts open until the right person comes along. I dont really see the point in doing otherwise.
Totally agree with these points. For me, it is somewhat frustrating when an employer either doesn't specify salary or when contacted, is unable to confirm the offered salary, due to the exact reasons in your points.
Since my time in a previous role, I'll make sure I know the salary band and/or actual salary being offered with any future applications, after being completely shafted in the last role surrounding 'salary expectations'.
Since my time in a previous role, I'll make sure I know the salary band and/or actual salary being offered with any future applications, after being completely shafted in the last role surrounding 'salary expectations'.
Langweilig said:
Annoying thing number 5 - Spending up to £300 on a newspaper ad in relation to a job vacancy. Then being unable or unwilling to spend the price of a stamp to tell you your application's been rejected.
I have to agree with this one. Very rude, although understandable if it is for a role where you are going to have 50+ CV's. In that case I think that people should put something like if you haven't heard from us within 14 days of sending us your CV it's not you.On the other hand I know someone who went through all this sort of crap and now makes sure that they reply to every appication they get, even if it a polite version of learn how to write English and spell before applying for a role that will involve a lot of paperwork or do you really think a job for a cleaner for 15 hours a week (3hrs per day) in Norfolk is for you given that you have indicated you live in Brixton and there is nothing to suggest you are moving out here...
Number 6 - Kind of related to the Salary range one, but they say "Exceptionally competitive rate" and then when the offer arrives it's 10 grand less than you're currently on...
A big American Computer firm once told me "People take a pay cut to come to work for us" - I didn't and later spent 8 years working for them as contractor for far more money
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A big American Computer firm once told me "People take a pay cut to come to work for us" - I didn't and later spent 8 years working for them as contractor for far more money
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Have to say, I don't like ads that show no closing dates. You have to spend time getting your cover letters / CV right for each job, only to find it has already gone.
Seems the thing these days, not to respond in anyway to those who did not make the grade. How are applicants going to improve their sales pitch if they have no feed back to work from.
As for 'salary expectations'
1) Having been out of work for some time now, anything that is ABOVE min wage would be good.
2) How about telling aplicants the pay, then those who think is is not enough for them will not apply - saves everyones time.
Wish employers would consider the 'older' worker - we can count and write/talk ENGLISH. And have all the work ethic, just give us the chance.
Sorry if this is comes across as a rant, early retiament (with no cash pot to hand)at 48 was NOT in my game plan.
Seems the thing these days, not to respond in anyway to those who did not make the grade. How are applicants going to improve their sales pitch if they have no feed back to work from.
As for 'salary expectations'
1) Having been out of work for some time now, anything that is ABOVE min wage would be good.
2) How about telling aplicants the pay, then those who think is is not enough for them will not apply - saves everyones time.
Wish employers would consider the 'older' worker - we can count and write/talk ENGLISH. And have all the work ethic, just give us the chance.
Sorry if this is comes across as a rant, early retiament (with no cash pot to hand)at 48 was NOT in my game plan.
Rude-boy said:
Langweilig said:
Annoying thing number 5 - Spending up to £300 on a newspaper ad in relation to a job vacancy. Then being unable or unwilling to spend the price of a stamp to tell you your application's been rejected.
I have to agree with this one. Very rude, although understandable if it is for a role where you are going to have 50+ CV's. In that case I think that people should put something like if you haven't heard from us within 14 days of sending us your CV it's not you.
Puggit said:
Nothing to stop a bulk email being sent out saying "thanks but sorry" - BCCing all the email addresses of course
Could be done in my World, not sure that many on here would have considered it though before posting "And just how much time do I have to waste telling 359 candidates that I didn't even read their CV as they failed the 'luck' test on the first sort through". Hence the limitation.WRT the 48 year old chap, some times the problem is that employers don’t see passed that you are older and so expect that you will ‘want’ more money than the 25 year old ‘graduate’ they can have for £4.50 and a packet of chips. Part of the problem is also that they will expect that at the first sign of an upswing you’ll be off to earn more elsewhere and they will be back to square one.
On the other hand there are some employers who actively look for people over 40 to fill their roles due to some of the reasons you mention. Be careful how you look at the question of being able to speak and write English though. Some people assume that because you want an employee who can do this you must be at A level grade yourself and/or utterly racist as you want them to be able to communicate effectively in the office and with customers.
Kateg28 said:
DCS01 said:
we can count and write/talk ENGLISH.
Does that include spelling?So why the
does the application always arrive with my name and address mis-spelt?
MitchT said:
Annoying thing number 3:
Advertising a salary band for a role but being resolutely unwilling to pay anything but the bottom of the salary band. In that case, just advertise the wage you are willing to pay so people with high levels of qualification and experience don't waste their time applying for jobs with mickey mouse wages.
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ThisAdvertising a salary band for a role but being resolutely unwilling to pay anything but the bottom of the salary band. In that case, just advertise the wage you are willing to pay so people with high levels of qualification and experience don't waste their time applying for jobs with mickey mouse wages.
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king retards Company flew Mrs and I over to Canada for a 2nd interview, all expenses paid. We pre-agreed my minimum before I left (top of their band for my experience) and they subsequently tried to offer me the bottom of that band. I think they were expecting me to roll over but I'm not that desperate to go to Canada.
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Langweilig said:
Kateg28 said:
DCS01 said:
we can count and write/talk ENGLISH.
Does that include spelling?So why the
does the application always arrive with my name and address mis-spelt?Just struck me as faintly ironic.
And another annoying thing... If and when you do land an interview, why is there always one 17 year old girl on the interview panel who's just left school and has an exciting career ahead of her in HR?
With her line of questioning, the only thing she knows is that interrogation comes before interview in a dictionary.
With her line of questioning, the only thing she knows is that interrogation comes before interview in a dictionary.
Edited by Langweilig on Tuesday 20th March 14:27
blindswelledrat said:
Agree with the others but can't agree with this one.
THere is no rule that there has to be a closing date.
We leave our adverts open until the right person comes along. I dont really see the point in doing otherwise.
No, there is no rule saying there has to be a closing date, but it’s bloody frustrating for people when they’re looking for a job but have no clue what timescales are involved. Besides, if a company can function indefinitely without a position being filled then just how secure is that position going to be when it is finally filled? It’s hardly going to inspire a sense of security, and thus commitment, in someone who fills a position if they know that the company functioned perfectly well with nobody performing that role for many months prior to that.THere is no rule that there has to be a closing date.
We leave our adverts open until the right person comes along. I dont really see the point in doing otherwise.
MitchT said:
blindswelledrat said:
Agree with the others but can't agree with this one.
THere is no rule that there has to be a closing date.
We leave our adverts open until the right person comes along. I dont really see the point in doing otherwise.
No, there is no rule saying there has to be a closing date, but it’s bloody frustrating for people when they’re looking for a job but have no clue what timescales are involved. Besides, if a company can function indefinitely without a position being filled then just how secure is that position going to be when it is finally filled? It’s hardly going to inspire a sense of security, and thus commitment, in someone who fills a position if they know that the company functioned perfectly well with nobody performing that role for many months prior to that.THere is no rule that there has to be a closing date.
We leave our adverts open until the right person comes along. I dont really see the point in doing otherwise.
They will not fill it for the sake of it because they want to make sure the right person for the job fills it as opposed to 'the best of a bad bunch'.
THis is the reason they do it (or at least we do it).
Further, we deliberately omit this kind of detail to encourage the people to phone up and talk to us. Just to sift out people who just fire out a CV and dont even show enough initiative to follow it through.
Im sure we arent in teh same industry but Ill bet there are a lot of similarities in recruiting. In the past few year the art of applying for jobs seems to have gone completely out of the window due to the ease of applying via the internet.
THe number of people you phone to arrange an interview for them to clearly have no idea whatsoever who you are or what you do it astonishing. If we get 100 cvs in from a job advert on average 10% will have applied specifically with an interest in the job and 90% will just be utter morons that fire out CVs to every job on the internet.
Hope this gives you a bit of insight as to why emplyers might do things, and perhaps give food for thought as to how to be more pro-active in your applications?
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