Raikkonen - misunderstood genius?
Raikkonen - misunderstood genius?
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Blackpuddin

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19,392 posts

234 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Interesting piece on the BBC about Raikkonen's 'split personality':

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewbenson/2012/03/th...

For them as can't be bothered to read it, the gist of it is that the dour Finn is actually talkative and jocular with everyone except the Press. 'He is just not interested in any of his dealings with the media and, unlike his rivals, doesn't bother to hide it.'

We can all understand people in the public eye not liking the members of the Press, but I wonder if Kimi has really thought this one through. Whether he likes it or not, the Press is the only medium through which he has a chance to show the public his true personality. Giving the Press the poker face treatment is effectively the same as giving the public the cold shoulder. Just wondering if he really doesn't realise that he needs to see beyond the Press to his ultimate audience – the fans. Seems odd that he's not getting better advice from his minders, if he has any.

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Kimi doesn't give a st - apart from when he's having one. biggrin

diddly69

695 posts

206 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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davepoth said:
Kimi doesn't give a st - apart from when he's having one. biggrin
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hairykrishna

14,492 posts

232 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Blackpuddin said:
We can all understand people in the public eye not liking the members of the Press, but I wonder if Kimi has really thought this one through. Whether he likes it or not, the Press is the only medium through which he has a chance to show the public his true personality. Giving the Press the poker face treatment is effectively the same as giving the public the cold shoulder. Just wondering if he really doesn't realise that he needs to see beyond the Press to his ultimate audience – the fans. Seems odd that he's not getting better advice from his minders, if he has any.
That assumes that he gives two sts about the fans. Everything I've ever seen from him suggests that he likes to drive racing cars and he happens to be good at it. Everything else is secondary. I honestly don't think he'd be bothered if nobody watched him or if he didn't get any fan support.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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I like his honesty, its refreshing and makes me laugh. He has got more personality than most people in the public eye.

In a world of corporate mouths and David Beckhams, Kimi is a breath of fresh air.

Pork_n_Beem

1,164 posts

254 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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I really dislike the driver interviews, they are predictable and boring, say nothing interesting and if they keep thanking the team any more i am going to mute them.
If i thanked my wife, who cooked my tea, everytime i met a stranger she would think i was mad. Why can't they just contact them in a more meaningful way.

Raikkonen, enjoyed watching him and would pay to watch him race even if he could not talk.

Who cares

Crafty_

14,053 posts

229 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Do we really need another thread ?

Fire99

9,865 posts

258 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Personally, as a 'fan' I prefer the fact Kimi is his own man and speaks when he chooses to, rather than following the corporate line. He drives well (which is the important bit) and he keeps his statements to a minimum.

To be honest, the interviews where everything is 'challenging', 'encouraging', 'Team is brilliant', 'Thank you , Thank you, Thank you', are a bit cringe-worthy and have more than a hint of insincerity.


CocoUK

1,065 posts

211 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Could be an old-wives tale, but did Kimi receive advice from Mika to be the way he is with the media in order to have a quiet life?

Blackpuddin

Original Poster:

19,392 posts

234 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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I was playing devil's advocate with the original post and actually agree with the views expressed that he shouldn't indulge the press. His blank approach ironically gives him a degree of personality that few of the other drivers have. The only one I can think of who matches him is Webber. I admire the way he shoots from the hip while stopping just short of putting his employers in an impossible position.

vtgts300kw

640 posts

206 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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CocoUK said:
Could be an old-wives tale, but did Kimi receive advice from Mika to be the way he is with the media in order to have a quiet life?
He is quite well known back in Finland for his partying ways though isn't he?

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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vtgts300kw said:
He is quite well known back in Finland for his partying ways though isn't he?
He's quite well known all over the world for his partying ways.





Yes, that is him falling off a boat. There's a video on Youtube somewhere.

EDLT

15,421 posts

235 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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Pork_n_Beem said:
I really dislike the driver interviews, they are predictable and boring, say nothing interesting and if they keep thanking the team any more i am going to mute them.
If i thanked my wife, who cooked my tea, everytime i met a stranger she would think i was mad. Why can't they just contact them in a more meaningful way.

Raikkonen, enjoyed watching him and would pay to watch him race even if he could not talk.

Who cares
I agree, driver interviews are st. From what I've seen, F1 actually gives the drivers the most freedom to speak their mind. Watch a post-race interview of a BTCC driver and all you get is a list of sponsors. sleep

vtgts300kw

640 posts

206 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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davepoth said:
He's quite well known all over the world for his partying ways.





Yes, that is him falling off a boat. There's a video on Youtube somewhere.
Yes, but even more so at home from what I can tell.

DJRC

23,563 posts

265 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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Yes, he is *very* well known back in Finland for the partying.

And fully encouraged. The Finns think he is acting normally though. Its a very different culture there.

jonnyb

2,590 posts

281 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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Good luck to the guy! he's one of my favourite drivers at the moment. The comment about taking a dump when Schumacher got his lifetime achievement award was just priceless.

DanDC5

19,991 posts

196 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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hairykrishna said:
That assumes that he gives two sts about the fans. Everything I've ever seen from him suggests that he likes to drive racing cars and he happens to be good at it. Everything else is secondary. I honestly don't think he'd be bothered if nobody watched him or if he didn't get any fan support.
This.

He just wants to race, and he's happy race anything from F1 cars to snow mobiles. I like Kimi Raikkonen a lot for that reason, and the fact he's one of a small number of drivers who is openly honest and says what he thinks. He's the one driver everyone would pick to go for a few beers with.

CocoUK

1,065 posts

211 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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vtgts300kw said:
CocoUK said:
Could be an old-wives tale, but did Kimi receive advice from Mika to be the way he is with the media in order to have a quiet life?
He is quite well known back in Finland for his partying ways though isn't he?
Indeed he is - his private life.

But as per the topic, the way he acts in front of the media when at work, i.e. quiet, boring etc, is possibly due, in part, to the advice he received from Mika. Give the media bugger all, they go off else where for a story, you get yourself an ice-cream.

KaraK

13,784 posts

238 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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Blackpuddin said:
Giving the Press the poker face treatment is effectively the same as giving the public the cold shoulder. Just wondering if he really doesn't realise that he needs to see beyond the Press to his ultimate audience – the fans. Seems odd that he's not getting better advice from his minders, if he has any.
Well he seems to have plenty of fans, earns plenty of money and has a World Championship under his belt. Sounds like he's doing just fine to me.

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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For a good enough driver who doesn't need to appease sponsors, I reckon Raikonnen gets it bang on. I find his monosylabic interviews very entertaining and am looking forward to him being on the podium and the post-race press conferences hehe