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Do you think there is any chance the general idiots public will ever learn this concept or should I just give up now? I was merging into one lane last night and some moron in a truck parked diagonally across both lanes half a mile before they converged to stop people from "cutting in" 
130R said:
Do you think there is any chance the general idiots public will ever learn this concept or should I just give up now? I was merging into one lane last night and some moron in a truck parked diagonally across both lanes half a mile before they converged to stop people from "cutting in"
If he 'parked' there, it's because the traffic was already stationary. The reason it wasn't moving was all the people who stayed out until the last moment, and then cut in, causing traffic in the moving lane to stop.If people weren't so determined to get in front of "Just one more car", merging wouldn't be any kind of a problem.
Doofus said:
The reason it wasn't moving was all the people who stayed out until the last moment, and then cut in, causing traffic in the moving lane to stop.
If people weren't so determined to get in front of "Just one more car", merging wouldn't be any kind of a problem.
ooo there's always one isn't there If people weren't so determined to get in front of "Just one more car", merging wouldn't be any kind of a problem.
Don't merge as one big two-mile long queue
I regularly come across this on my commute home from work. There was some guy blocking me in the other week but the other side of the road was clear so I just overtook him. He was literally fuming but FFS I merged in about 100 yards before it would have been regarded as 'cutting in'. IMO I prefer it as it is, put all the muppets in one lane and the other one is free for people with a brain.
It's a problem we will not easily solve in the UK.
Most people in the UK just form a single queue rather than using both lanes and merging in turn.
Next you get two types of people using L2 or whatever:
1 - People who understand the concept and what has been asked by the signage and do it.
2 - People who are
s and will do anything at all they can get away with at all times, including queue jumping.
Types 1 and 2 people are perceived to have jumped the queue. Some have (type 2s) some haven't (type 1), but either way the people in L1 queue move more slowly as they have to let in the stream of L2 traffic, and given that the majority of people in the UK form the longer L1 queue in ignorance of the signage, this means L2 is less used and the people using it will inevitably get through the obstruction quicker.
When a lorry straddles both and stops the L2 users from moving up front it speeds up the L1 queue and so traffic for L1 users moves faster. I have to admit I'm always pleased when I see this as it's no fun watching people go past when you've been waiting for your "turn" for ages. I don't use L2 unless a critical mass of people are also doing it as I try to be polite (rightly or wrongly).
The only way round it is for all traffic to use both lanes, but educating people would cost money and the Tories only give and take for their rich mates so it won't happen.
Edit: After re-reading my post I realise I am part of the problem and need to address my behaviour. But then I'd be badged as a tt. Oh noes. What to do?
Most people in the UK just form a single queue rather than using both lanes and merging in turn.
Next you get two types of people using L2 or whatever:
1 - People who understand the concept and what has been asked by the signage and do it.
2 - People who are
s and will do anything at all they can get away with at all times, including queue jumping.Types 1 and 2 people are perceived to have jumped the queue. Some have (type 2s) some haven't (type 1), but either way the people in L1 queue move more slowly as they have to let in the stream of L2 traffic, and given that the majority of people in the UK form the longer L1 queue in ignorance of the signage, this means L2 is less used and the people using it will inevitably get through the obstruction quicker.
When a lorry straddles both and stops the L2 users from moving up front it speeds up the L1 queue and so traffic for L1 users moves faster. I have to admit I'm always pleased when I see this as it's no fun watching people go past when you've been waiting for your "turn" for ages. I don't use L2 unless a critical mass of people are also doing it as I try to be polite (rightly or wrongly).
The only way round it is for all traffic to use both lanes, but educating people would cost money and the Tories only give and take for their rich mates so it won't happen.
Edit: After re-reading my post I realise I am part of the problem and need to address my behaviour. But then I'd be badged as a t
t. Oh noes. What to do?Edited by joebongo on Wednesday 21st March 14:03
gtdc said:
Why do people not do it though? Don't understand the resistance to the concept.
Because our signs usually show this ^
Which contradicts the "merge in turn" principle in people's minds. It says the right lane is closing, so get in the lane that isn't. That is why people resent other people who attempt to merge at the last minute.
However, the highway code contradicts what the signs say anyway. If we had more sensible signage, people would be more likely to form to even queues and then merge sensibly.
Maybe something like this:
Mr Gear said:
gtdc said:
Why do people not do it though? Don't understand the resistance to the concept.
Because our signs usually show this ^
Which contradicts the "merge in turn" principle in people's minds. It says the right lane is closing, so get in the lane that isn't. That is why people resent other people who attempt to merge at the last minute.
However, the highway code contradicts what the signs say anyway. If we had more sensible signage, people would be more likely to form to even queues and then merge sensibly.
Maybe something like this:
130R said:
Do you think there is any chance the general idiots public will ever learn this concept or should I just give up now? I was merging into one lane last night and some moron in a truck parked diagonally across both lanes half a mile before they converged to stop people from "cutting in"
NTSA 
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ewenm said:
chris7676 said:
Why is it "In Turn" ?
Because it keeps both lanes moving.Merging further back just moves the pinch point further back and makes a longer queue which can end up blocking junctions or complicating traffic flow further back.
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