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7 TVR

Original Poster:

2,589 posts

192 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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Ok so i'm fiddling with wheel and tyre sizes for some track set up, has anyone run 18" by 9" on the rear? and has anyone run an 8" wide front iether on 16,17 without power steering? Thanks

Edited by 7 TVR on Thursday 22 March 15:50

The AJP Griff

4,360 posts

279 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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Yep,I ran an 18x9 et 40 rear and a 17x8 et 25 front,shod with 265x35 and 215x40 tyres.

7 TVR

Original Poster:

2,589 posts

192 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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The AJP Griff said:
Yep,I ran an 18x9 et 40 rear and a 17x8 et 25 front,shod with 265x35 and 215x40 tyres.
Thanks for the info, what tyres were you running? and do you think i could get away with a 225 40 on a 17 by 8 on the front?

Were you running power steering and if not did the 215 x40 feel heavy?

Sorry to ask so many questions but i'm just trying to get as much feedback as possible!

The AJP Griff

4,360 posts

279 months

Saturday 24th March 2012
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My tyres were Bridgestone RE050 Asemetric. I did have power steering so it never felt heavy,but it shouldnt feel heavy if you have unassisted either i would have thought. I dont think you'l find a 225x40x17 tyre,or at least i couldnt,hence the 215 choice.

Ant.

5,254 posts

305 months

Saturday 24th March 2012
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Mike, you still going RL route?

The AJP Griff

4,360 posts

279 months

Saturday 24th March 2012
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Ant. said:
Mike, you still going RL route?
I'm still undecided to be honest Ant.I'm leaning towards keeping the 4 stud set up though as it'd be nice to use my spare set of Estorils for the winter.

SILICONEKID340HP

14,997 posts

255 months

Saturday 24th March 2012
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The AJP Griff said:
Yep,I ran an 18x9 et 40 rear and a 17x8 et 25 front,shod with 265x35 and 215x40 tyres.
I don`t know how different the chassis is next the the Chimaera !I have 255/40/17`s fitted with an offset of 35 .

The back edge of the tyre is very close to the angled out rigger..

If i jack my car up on one side , it actaully catches the out rigger .

The outside edge will allso catch on the wheel arch unless you increase the ride height

I can`t understand how you managed to fit 265`s without having problems.



Edited by SILICONEKID340HP on Saturday 24th March 19:12

7 TVR

Original Poster:

2,589 posts

192 months

Saturday 24th March 2012
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The AJP Griff said:
My tyres were Bridgestone RE050 Asemetric. I did have power steering so it never felt heavy,but it shouldnt feel heavy if you have unassisted either i would have thought. I dont think you'l find a 225x40x17 tyre,or at least i couldnt,hence the 215 choice.
Currently have some toyo 225x40x17 its the215 that are a 6 week wait but this tyre is pinched in on a 7 inch rim so i think i'll try a 8" and keep the 225

Jammy Dodger

2,449 posts

179 months

Saturday 24th March 2012
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The AJP Griff said:
My tyres were Bridgestone RE050 Asemetric. I did have power steering so it never felt heavy,but it shouldnt feel heavy if you have unassisted either i would have thought. I dont think you'l find a 225x40x17 tyre,or at least i couldnt,hence the 215 choice.
i couldn't find 225/40/17 either. Matt Lee (formerly Silverstone Performance) suggested 235/40/17 for chimaera.

Jammy Dodger

2,449 posts

179 months

Saturday 24th March 2012
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SILICONEKID340HP said:
I don`t know how different the chassis is next the the Chimaera !I have 255/40/17`s fitted with an offset of 35 .

The back edge of the tyre is very close to the angled out rigger..

If i jack my car up on one side high it actaully catches the out rigger .jacking it up like that is just imitating the extremes the suspension can go..

The outside edge will allso catch on the wheel arch unless you increase the ride height

I can`t understand how you managed to fit 265`s without having problems.
talking about the front Daz, I think....

SILICONEKID340HP

14,997 posts

255 months

Saturday 24th March 2012
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Sorry I have 225/40/16`s on the front on a 7j rim ..Falken tyres say 7j is ok because its a 45 profile..

7 TVR

Original Poster:

2,589 posts

192 months

Saturday 24th March 2012
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SILICONEKID340HP said:
Sorry I have 225/40/16`s on the front on a 7j rim ..Falken tyres say 7j is ok because its a 45 profile..
Could you enlighten me further as i think i'm a little lost, whats the J, i have been told toyo come up a little bigger then a standard road tyre!
I have also had to modify my front arches just to run 225x45x17 on full lock!

SILICONEKID340HP

14,997 posts

255 months

Saturday 24th March 2012
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7 TVR said:
SILICONEKID340HP said:
Sorry I have 225/40/16`s on the front on a 7j rim ..Falken tyres say 7j is ok because its a 45 profile..
Could you enlighten me further as i think i'm a little lost, whats the J, i have been told toyo come up a little bigger then a standard road tyre!
I have also had to modify my front arches just to run 225x45x17 on full lock!
J is rim width ..I matched the rolling circumference from my standard 205/55/15`s and 225/45/16 came very close ,only a few mm diameter larger.

I don`t have any problems on full lock ..

What is the standard factory tyre size for a Griffith because 225/45/17 sounds to big .When i was running 17" rims the best match is 215/40/17`s just a few mm smaller than the 205 factory setup.

Back to the J rim width ,the tyre calculator when i taped in 225/45/16 its shows a rim width from 7.5 to 9 ..I double checked with Falken and they said 7j is fine because of the the wall height profile 45

45% of 225. cheers ..

205/55/15 =606 standard setup

215/40/17 +604 My old setup. this would be the tyre for you .

225/45/16= 608 my setup

Your tyre choice 225/45/17 = 634mm Thats why you are having problems .

Edited by SILICONEKID340HP on Saturday 24th March 20:26

7 TVR

Original Poster:

2,589 posts

192 months

Sunday 25th March 2012
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SILICONEKID340HP said:
J is rim width ..I matched the rolling circumference from my standard 205/55/15`s and 225/45/16 came very close ,only a few mm diameter larger.

I don`t have any problems on full lock ..

What is the standard factory tyre size for a Griffith because 225/45/17 sounds to big .When i was running 17" rims the best match is 215/40/17`s just a few mm smaller than the 205 factory setup.

Back to the J rim width ,the tyre calculator when i taped in 225/45/16 its shows a rim width from 7.5 to 9 ..I double checked with Falken and they said 7j is fine because of the the wall height profile 45

45% of 225. cheers ..

205/55/15 =606 standard setup

215/40/17 +604 My old setup. this would be the tyre for you .

225/45/16= 608 my setup

Your tyre choice 225/45/17 = 634mm Thats why you are having problems .

Edited by SILICONEKID340HP on Saturday 24th March 20:26
Sorry that should of read 225/40/17, and forgive my ignorance could you explain the calculations ie 215/40/17?
Appreciate the advice as i have found wheels a minefield of hidden dangers,et etc!!!! ;}

SILICONEKID340HP

14,997 posts

255 months

Sunday 25th March 2012
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7 TVR said:
Sorry that should of read 225/40/17, and forgive my ignorance could you explain the calculations ie 215/40/17?
Appreciate the advice as i have found wheels a minefield of hidden dangers,et etc!!!! ;}
225/40/17 means 17" tyre 40% of the 225 = 612mm wall height 8mm taller which is close enough.


215/40/17 means 17" tyre 40% of the 215 = 604mm

What is your offset "ET"

RichB

55,405 posts

308 months

Sunday 25th March 2012
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I love the way tyres are sized in a combination of centimeters, inches, and percentages hehe

7 TVR

Original Poster:

2,589 posts

192 months

Sunday 25th March 2012
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SILICONEKID340HP said:
225/40/17 means 17" tyre 40% of the 225 = 612mm wall height 8mm taller which is close enough.


215/40/17 means 17" tyre 40% of the 215 = 604mm

What is your offset "ET"
28 on the front as thats as close to original as they did!

haircutmike

22,455 posts

228 months

Sunday 25th March 2012
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Christian, I used to run my triple 8's on my Image wheels without P/S.

I upgraded to P/S after a race instructor said after driving it that the steering was terrible for the track, far too heavy to correct quickly.

Might be time to spend a little more on P/S smile.

SSPPGG

2,120 posts

226 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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a bit of a thread revival, but ive just got some 17 by j8 rl7, which have an et of 33 all round .

i am considering which tyre sizes to run. and which tyres (id like to stick with some semi track tyres)

it seems from this thread, that for the rear, a 255/40/17 will work ok, but i might have to dress the arch a tad on the NSR.

for the front, i am struggling to find a 225/40/17, but I wonder if anyone has tried a 235/40/17, on the front?

I could keep to the et33 offset, which would pull the front wheel in slightly 10mm, and space the wheel out as far as possible, and as im fitting pas, and have to make up a rack spacer, I can limit the rack movement to ensure no fouling on the inner arches

looking at the radius calcs,

205/55/15 gets a diameter of 608
225/40/17 gets a diameter of 612 (which seem to fit OK on an et25 offset)

the other alternative some folk run is is 215/45/17, (diameter of 625), which seem to clear ok, but i think these may look a little stretched on an 8 inch rim, and i dont want the stretched look on the front and a fat look on the rear

this compares to a 235/40/17 diameter of 620.

any thoughts before i spend cash on tyres?






Edited by SSPPGG on Wednesday 19th September 13:41


Edited by SSPPGG on Wednesday 19th September 14:14

haircutmike

22,455 posts

228 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Steve, I have run many sets of 215/45/17 triple 8s on the front due to availability.

Gonna try the 235/40/17s next time for a bit more grip and hopefully turn in.

I have no problems with front wheel clearance and hope all will be well with the increased size!