What shall I get? BUDGET DEPENDING ...
What shall I get? BUDGET DEPENDING ...
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90 B

Original Poster:

654 posts

222 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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Hi fellas,

I am asking on behalf of my father. Not myself.

To cut a long story short, he is currently running a BMW 318i. HE NEEDS A NEW CAR because there is so much wrong with it he has no choice.

He puts OVER £90.00 per week in petrol. He only commutes 5.5 miles per day! ... It is shot!

He has no idea on what to get. He seems to of taken a liking to the BMW 535D sport, Range Rover Sport (Unfortunately), EClass ..

Personally, I cant think of a more boring car than the 5 series. Hate them but he likes them.

He also likes the look of the XF but hasnt driven one.

However, I am petrol and power mad. I have made the recomendation of an Jaguar XK/XKR, 997 Carrera (WHICH HE LOVES, BUT CUSTOMERS WONT), Quatroporte (reliability?), 7 Series (too Ugly)...

For the Jag XK, can anyone shed any light on running costs ... He doesnt want to be spending fortunes on running costs. NO M5 running costs please ...

Budget is a strange one ... HE is looking to have it for quite a few years. Over 6 I imagine so reliability is an importance.

Overall, I doubt he will want to spoon out over £30,000 and he wants to refrain from making crass impressions on customers and employees.

Any help is appreciated. Pistonheads seems to be the best place for honest advice and tips ....





Edited by 90 B on Thursday 22 March 21:29

fozzymandeus

1,076 posts

166 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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Merc S320cdi. In black.

Most of the performance orientated machinery you list has "M5 running costs".

Unless by "No M5 running costs" you mean you want to spend more, for example in the case of the Quattroporte.

halo34

2,890 posts

219 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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What is his total mileage each week?

Diesel only makes sense if big miles and if he is keeping it a while then clogging up DPFs and other issues may appear if he is only doing a few miles a day?

Car doesnt get a chance to warm up/down you see and it does end up in problems!

90 B

Original Poster:

654 posts

222 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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What I meant by M5 running costs ... I have heard nightmares regarding their running costs. E60 that is ... Im not sure how accurate my info is but Iv'e heard they are a pit!

He probably hits 30 - 40 miles per week.

smile

Thanks for the replies


90 B

Original Poster:

654 posts

222 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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fozzymandeus said:
Merc S320cdi. In black.

Most of the performance orientated machinery you list has "M5 running costs".

Unless by "No M5 running costs" you mean you want to spend more, for example in the case of the Quattroporte.
Hmm ... I love the SClass!!!!!

That is one that skipped my radar.

6fire

406 posts

171 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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90 B said:
He probably hits 30 - 40 miles per week.
If he wants to save money he'd probably be better off taking a taxi everyday and hiring a car when he needs it at weekends.

90 B

Original Poster:

654 posts

222 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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We are heading up to see a silver 535d tomorrow.

To be honest, I am not that fussed.

A friend of mine has just bought an Audi RS4 in sprint blue for £18,000 ...

Why would you spend just over £14,000 for a 5 series?

I am confused. Maybe its my naivity towards running an RS4 compared to the 5 series?!


andy-xr

13,204 posts

224 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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Buy a £500 car that doesn't have a fuel leak, or fix the one he's got?? I cant see how someone would pay Shell when it could be going to Dave at the garage?

yajeed

5,038 posts

274 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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90 B said:
We are heading up to see a silver 535d tomorrow.

To be honest, I am not that fussed.

A friend of mine has just bought an Audi RS4 in sprint blue for £18,000 ...

Why would you spend just over £14,000 for a 5 series?

I am confused. Maybe its my naivity towards running an RS4 compared to the 5 series?!
Because they're completely different cars and meant for different purposes. The 535d is cheaper, better at wafting and more economical. You may not choose to spend 14k on one, but if you wanted to put reasonable mileage on a reliable (ish) larger car and it not cost the earth then it's a reasonable choice. That said, it's probably not a great choice considering his mileage.

90 B

Original Poster:

654 posts

222 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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Yes. I know. Your right ...

I just think he is getting a good car for good money. Not a great car for good money.

Out of all the BM's, the 5 is my least favourite. Very boring.

S320 is a good shout. Too big apparantly.

Oh well, Im not the one that has to drive it everyday.


oj121

1,548 posts

192 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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I just cant fathom some people who want to buy a derv to do a milage that is so low it could be cycled. Nothing about it makes sense. Ask him why he seems to be set on a derv and whatever answer he gives tell him hes wrong.

PlugUgly

62 posts

182 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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oj121 said:
I just cant fathom some people who want to buy a derv to do a milage that is so low it could be cycled. Nothing about it makes sense. Ask him why he seems to be set on a derv and whatever answer he gives tell him hes wrong.
Bang on the money! If he's doing a maximum of 40 miles a week then a big petrol will (pessimistically) romp through a massive 2 gallons of fuel, versus maybe 1.5 for the diesel, a saving of about £2.68 per week. If a diesel costs £1,000 more than an equivalent petrol then it'll take him over 7 years to recoup the cost.

90 B

Original Poster:

654 posts

222 months

Saturday 24th March 2012
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Exactly. Economically, you can source the EXACT same vehicle but with a 4.5 litre V8 for half the money!!!

Lol.

People make their minds up without looking at the numbers. They set out for a diesel because the fuel is " cheaper " but they spend much more on the initial purchasing price of the car.

Very strange to me ...

Im trying to get him to look at an RS4 as I feel that is perfect for his everyday needs. We have taken one out for a spin and he loved it. But its the day to day running costs of fuel etc... Also, I want to be insured on it lol. Im not interested in a 5 series.

We are driving different cars all day tomorrow as the 5 he liked has sold (THANK GOD) lol

Thanks for the replies!!

smile


Chrisw666

22,655 posts

219 months

Saturday 24th March 2012
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Odd thread.

£90 a week to cover 40 miles in a 318i?

That would be 1mpg??

Which leads me to suspect a huge maths fail or some lies.

Spending £30k to save money is an odd tactic too.


90 B

Original Poster:

654 posts

222 months

Saturday 24th March 2012
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I dont know precisely how many miles he covers per day. But he rarely leaves the office and his office is 5.5 miles away ...

HE CLAIMS he is putting £90 per week in. I dont know to be honest ... But what I do know is that he needs a new car. lol

Toaster Pilot

14,821 posts

178 months

Saturday 24th March 2012
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A diesel for very low mileage is potentially ruinous too...

jbi

12,696 posts

224 months

Saturday 24th March 2012
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Chrisw666 said:
Odd thread.

£90 a week to cover 40 miles in a 318i?

That would be 1mpg??

Which leads me to suspect a huge maths fail or some lies.

Spending £30k to save money is an odd tactic too.
Indeed... just fix the BMW OP

AdeTuono

7,594 posts

247 months

Saturday 24th March 2012
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Chrisw666 said:
Odd thread.

£90 a week to cover 40 miles in a 318i?

That would be 1mpg??

Which leads me to suspect a huge maths fail or some lies.

Spending £30k to save money is an odd tactic too.
Just under 3 mpg.

For 40 miles a week, you can buy a nice push-bike for £30,000, and his 'customers' wouldn't know how much he's got to spunk on frivolities.

750turbo

6,164 posts

244 months

Saturday 24th March 2012
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Chrisw666 said:
Which leads me to suspect a huge maths fail or some lies.
This. ^^^

KardioKate

1,584 posts

174 months

Saturday 24th March 2012
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How old is this BMW?