End of cheap booze
Discussion
Cameron has now decided that it is time to put a minimum price on a unit of alcohol. Also it will be the end of supermarket discounts, cheap cider. He is confirming that the Country has to take control of the binge drinking and he see's this as the way to tackle the problem.
Two years in and I am sick to the back teeth of this Government interference in a free market society. I agree weekend turnouts from clubs in some Cities is a problem, so why do the police not come down hard on those minority to bring some sanity to that particular problem.
Two years in and I am sick to the back teeth of this Government interference in a free market society. I agree weekend turnouts from clubs in some Cities is a problem, so why do the police not come down hard on those minority to bring some sanity to that particular problem.
MX7 said:
If binge drinking is an issue, and I think it probably is, how do you address it if not by price?
- You stop terming more than a few pints 'binge drinking'
- You use existing, perfectly valid laws to prevent trouble
Three pints of Stella is considered, by the definition, 'binge' drinking. I'm sorry but you wont get society on board to a 'problem' when that bar is set so low.
You want to see what I'd term binge drinking? Get your arse over to Ireland
MX7 said:
If binge drinking is an issue, and I think it probably is, how do you address it if not by price?
Install breathalysers (sp?) at pubs so you can't get served if you have already had more than the government prescribed amount. back this up with massive fines for the publican if they fail to comply.that should finally kill off the remaining pub trade..
Shuvi McTupya said:
Install breathalysers (sp?) at pubs so you can't get served if you have already had more than the government prescribed amount. back this up with massive fines for the publican if they fail to comply.
that should finally kill off the remaining pub trade..
Please can you add the smilies to the above that should finally kill off the remaining pub trade..
I'm a publican and I feel that the irony is strong in this post...
MX7 said:
If binge drinking is an issue, and I think it probably is, how do you address it if not by price?
Reduce the stigma around drinking, reduce the drinking age, reduce the cost of it, make it available to anyone that wants it, when they want it and make it a normal part of day-to-day life so people realise there is no need to get drunk every time you have a drink.crankedup said:
Cameron has now decided that it is time to put a minimum price on a unit of alcohol. Also it will be the end of supermarket discounts, cheap cider. He is confirming that the Country has to take control of the binge drinking and he see's this as the way to tackle the problem.
Two years in and I am sick to the back teeth of this Government interference in a free market society. I agree weekend turnouts from clubs in some Cities is a problem, so why do the police not come down hard on those minority to bring some sanity to that particular problem.
All problems can only be solved by extra taxes. Two years in and I am sick to the back teeth of this Government interference in a free market society. I agree weekend turnouts from clubs in some Cities is a problem, so why do the police not come down hard on those minority to bring some sanity to that particular problem.
I can't wait until we can vote out these Labour busybodies. The tories will be much better.
roachcoach said:
- You stop terming more than a few pints 'binge drinking'
- You use existing, perfectly valid laws to prevent trouble
In 1997 it was roughly twice as expensive to drink in a pub, as it was to buy takeaway and drink at home...
In 2010 it was SEVEN times as costly to drink in the pub as it was to buy booze from a supermarket and drink it at home.
The best cure for binge drinking is to raise the price of supermarket booze - pub culture is miles away from the heavy drinking culture it was years ago, ad the punishment for publicans that aren't "responsible" in the eyes of the local authorities & police are quite swingeing now...
In 2010 it was SEVEN times as costly to drink in the pub as it was to buy booze from a supermarket and drink it at home.
The best cure for binge drinking is to raise the price of supermarket booze - pub culture is miles away from the heavy drinking culture it was years ago, ad the punishment for publicans that aren't "responsible" in the eyes of the local authorities & police are quite swingeing now...
DieselGriff said:
Reduce the stigma around drinking, reduce the drinking age, reduce the cost of it, make it available to anyone that wants it, when they want it and make it a normal part of day-to-day life so people realise there is no need to get drunk every time you have a drink.
Like Blair's "Cafe Society"? That went well!MX7 said:
People don't base their drinking habits on a government definition, and I suspect that much of the trouble is caused by people who buy their drink from the supermarket. In fact the article says "Ministers say the proposal would not affect responsible pubs".
I don't know, if you're 'binging' after 3, why stop?roachcoach said:
- You stop terming more than a few pints 'binge drinking'
- You use existing, perfectly valid laws to prevent trouble
Three pints of Stella is considered, by the definition, 'binge' drinking. I'm sorry but you wont get society on board to a 'problem' when that bar is set so low.
You want to see what I'd term binge drinking? Get your arse over to Ireland
What a massive F'ing joke this is.
First the smokers and now the drinkers I guess?
MX7 said:
DieselGriff said:
Reduce the stigma around drinking, reduce the drinking age, reduce the cost of it, make it available to anyone that wants it, when they want it and make it a normal part of day-to-day life so people realise there is no need to get drunk every time you have a drink.
Like Blair's "Cafe Society"? That went well!It's another typical small minded approach from the Government, and shows yet again how out of touch they are with grass root issues.
If they think by simply putting up prices of alcohol then they will get the problem of excess / binge drinking under control then they are bigger fools than I had them down for. This is another 'not thought through' strategy, just as the introduction of 24 hour drinking was a stuid idea which has contibuted to the problems we are facing today.
The problem is way bigger than simply price, and is rooted in high unemployment, poor education, lack of parental control and parents failing leading by example. The problem also sits with drinks comapnies and youth icons who glamorise the use and abuse of alcohol.
A good start would be to focus on working with education and the health services in an attempt to educate peole to the proper and safe use oof alochol, and concentrate on developing parenting skills, and in turn parents leading by example. In addition the Governemnt should intorduce a zero tolerance of drunken behaviour in public places....let peole know it will not be tolerated and stamp it out.
Enough said.....in off for a pot!
Cheers. BB.
If they think by simply putting up prices of alcohol then they will get the problem of excess / binge drinking under control then they are bigger fools than I had them down for. This is another 'not thought through' strategy, just as the introduction of 24 hour drinking was a stuid idea which has contibuted to the problems we are facing today.
The problem is way bigger than simply price, and is rooted in high unemployment, poor education, lack of parental control and parents failing leading by example. The problem also sits with drinks comapnies and youth icons who glamorise the use and abuse of alcohol.
A good start would be to focus on working with education and the health services in an attempt to educate peole to the proper and safe use oof alochol, and concentrate on developing parenting skills, and in turn parents leading by example. In addition the Governemnt should intorduce a zero tolerance of drunken behaviour in public places....let peole know it will not be tolerated and stamp it out.
Enough said.....in off for a pot!
Cheers. BB.
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