News International "Hacked OnDigital into Bankruptcy"
Discussion
davepoth said:
NailedOn said:
Alleged illegal hacking by News Corp of a competitor's (ITV OnDigital) security with the intention of destroying them.
If half of this is true then the Murdochs will fail the Fit & Proper test.
And then we get F1 back on the BBC. If half of this is true then the Murdochs will fail the Fit & Proper test.
Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
Amazing...NDS were running THOIC!! Who'd have thunk it.
Some memories came flooding back there - desparately trying to download the new Sky codes for the pitate card from the various BBS sites. Happy days.
Indeed. It was long rumoured that NDS were behind the big SECA hack at the beginning of the digital satellite era. OnDigital's biggest mistake was to adopt an encryption system that was already compromised. Some memories came flooding back there - desparately trying to download the new Sky codes for the pitate card from the various BBS sites. Happy days.
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=80...
From 2001 - "Just before it shut down there was a lot of talk about either SKY were involved in the running of it or that people from thoic were passing personal information from members to SKY. "
From 2001 - "Just before it shut down there was a lot of talk about either SKY were involved in the running of it or that people from thoic were passing personal information from members to SKY. "
Feel bad for the OnDigital/ITVDigital people, but I'm glad that the Murdochs are being exposed. Dodgy as hell, one of quite a few reasons why I don't watch F1 on Sky, or even have a Sky subscription. I found this report which suggests Ofcom are stepping up the "Fit and Proper" investigation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17309016. Quick question, if they are found not to be 'fit and proper', could they lose their licence to broadcast, which would (fingers crossed) mean the F1 could go back to the BBC? (when I say 'go back', I'm aware it hasn't actually left, just that the Beeb would get ALL the live races)
Looking at the Ofcom website I think BSkyB would survive, assuming that they don't end up being directly implicated into the Phone/Email/TV/Whatever hacking, but News International would need to sell up for them to continue broadcasting.
http://media.ofcom.org.uk/2012/03/09/statement-on-...
http://media.ofcom.org.uk/2012/03/09/statement-on-...
They took their time digging this one up. This 'news' is 10 years old: www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2002/mar/14/piracy.c...
Yes, I know, the Guardian, sorry....
Yes, I know, the Guardian, sorry....
DanB7290 said:
Feel bad for the OnDigital/ITVDigital people, but I'm glad that the Murdochs are being exposed. Dodgy as hell, one of quite a few reasons why I don't watch F1 on Sky, or even have a Sky subscription. I found this report which suggests Ofcom are stepping up the "Fit and Proper" investigation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17309016. Quick question, if they are found not to be 'fit and proper', could they lose their licence to broadcast, which would (fingers crossed) mean the F1 could go back to the BBC? (when I say 'go back', I'm aware it hasn't actually left, just that the Beeb would get ALL the live races)
For gods sake the BBC didn't want F1 that is why THEY went to sky the bbc screwed you over as itv and channel 4 were after the free to air rights but because of this half deal with sky they didn't get them. Makes me laugh that people think the murdochs are bothered about the small number of people like this poster that won't have a sky sub cos of phone hacking etc etc.
I couldn't care less if the murdochs ate small babies for breakfast I'd still have their tv calls and bb because it's the best package on the market.
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
MadMullah said:
did anyone watch this?
was it anything ground breaking?
Watched it - I suspect a pinch of salt, however you would also think accusations being levelled by the Beeb had better be bloody watertight to ensure the Murdochs Hounds don't leap at them.was it anything ground breaking?
Looked fairly murkey behaviour. Believable
NailedOn said:
The News Corp brand is becoming more toxic by the day.
This was nothing to do with Sky/News International, it was all about NDS selling their Videoguard encryption system to satellite pay tv platforms. The Murdochs had a stake in SKY Italia that was also compromised at the time, a short while later SKY Italia adopted NDS/Videoguard rather than SECA.ONDigital was collateral damage, I was running smart card emulation software through my laptop at the time and could've easily dropped keys in to watch their service. I didn't bother as there appeared to be nothing worth watching, certainly not when you had access to a massive amount of 24hr filth and PayPerView services showing all the latest films from the major european providers.
OnDigital crashed because they had nothing to offer the consumer that couldn't be bettered by Sky. Heck, you know you're in trouble when those running pirate software can't even be arsed to watch your service.
This is the BBC running an old news story, one that is quite ironic as I believe that at least for a time their output from several sats was/is protected by NDS/Videoguard.
Best regards
Jovial Joe said:
NailedOn said:
The News Corp brand is becoming more toxic by the day.
This was nothing to do with Sky/News International, it was all about NDS selling their Videoguard encryption system to satellite pay tv platforms. The Murdochs had a stake in SKY Italia that was also compromised at the time, a short while later SKY Italia adopted NDS/Videoguard rather than SECA.ONDigital was collateral damage, I was running smart card emulation software through my laptop at the time and could've easily dropped keys in to watch their service. I didn't bother as there appeared to be nothing worth watching, certainly not when you had access to a massive amount of 24hr filth and PayPerView services showing all the latest films from the major european providers.
OnDigital crashed because they had nothing to offer the consumer that couldn't be bettered by Sky. Heck, you know you're in trouble when those running pirate software can't even be arsed to watch your service.
This is the BBC running an old news story, one that is quite ironic as I believe that at least for a time their output from several sats was/is protected by NDS/Videoguard.
Best regards
Per The Guardian's website:
"Part of Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation empire employed computer hacking to undermine the business of its chief TV rival in Britain, according to evidence due to be broadcast by BBC1's Panorama programme on Monday ."
This was broadcast and I watched the entire programme last night. The most favourable position would be that SKY have a case to answer.
Also, James Murdoch was a non-exec director of NDS.
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