Hain up for contempt
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hornetrider

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63,161 posts

236 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Couldn't have happened to a nicer twunt.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17522730

audidoody

8,598 posts

287 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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"The ex-Northern Ireland secretary said he would defend free speech."


Good luck with that.

Liam+Stacey

NoNeed

15,137 posts

231 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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hornetrider said:
Couldn't have happened to a nicer twunt.
I'm not so sure, he is in 7th place on my list.hehe

Fittster

20,120 posts

244 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Can't see why judges should be approve criticism.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

231 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Fittster said:
Can't see why judges should be approve criticism.
I assume you mean 'above'

Maybe the legal system shouldn't be undermined by a twunt like hain.

Jasandjules

72,683 posts

260 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Plenty of judges deserve criticism. And quite probably far more than is ever levied at them. IIRC The Sun did a load of articles a few years ago doing just that.

Much as I hate Hain I agree with his right to do so and indeed I believe there needs to be fundamental changes made to the judiciary in this country.

anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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I don't like Hain but I'd be suprised if he wrote anything more than you would read on here most days.

scenario8

8,008 posts

210 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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NoNeed said:
I assume you mean 'above'

Maybe the legal system shouldn't be undermined by a twunt like hain.
Do you think Hain needs to be prosecuted for his actions? Personally I don't think he has undermined the legal system at all. Certainly nothing he has done warrants prosecution in my opinion.



Edited by scenario8 on Tuesday 27th March 18:26

Derek Smith

50,017 posts

279 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Compared to most people, I am pro Hain. I don't think that death's too good for him. Just the reverse in fact. It is just about right. However, much as it irritates to say, I'm with him on this one.

Judges should not be above criticism. Enough of them get it wrong to prove that they are by no means perfect. There are political judges, some of whom have been only too happy to sit on enquiries despite being mates with the then PM. (Names not available until post this case, if then.)

Some openly boast of having their own agenda. Some, and not always different ones, have been heavily criticised by higher courts, and frequently, although they continue to reap the benefits of being a HC judge, even if they can't cut it.

This is an MP. The court is using legislation that should really have been kicked into touch.

So, me and Hain are mates on this. It is very irritating to say so, but there it is. No one is beyond criticism - MPs, PMs, judges, religious leaders and religious nutters. If they don't want to be criticised then they should, perhaps, improve their performance.

Hain is, of coruse, far from immune to criticism but not, it appears, on this.

Edited by Derek Smith on Tuesday 27th March 22:39

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

248 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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I agree with Derek, nobody / nothing should be above criticism . . . .doesn’t matter if it’s a judge, police, politicians, religion etc.

dandarez

14,041 posts

314 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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AndrewW-G said:
I agree with Derek, nobody / nothing should be above criticism . . . .doesn’t matter if it’s a judge, police, politicians, religion etc.
Absolutely!

...and for other reasons, I'm with Hain's publisher on this too.

Being PH politically-blinkered should not come into this story.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

277 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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AndrewW-G said:
I agree with Derek, nobody / nothing should be above criticism . . . .
. . . . except of course the royal family. After all, this is PH.

Peter Hain is, was, and ever shall be, one of the ghastliest self-serving creatures on this planet.

Andy Zarse

10,870 posts

278 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
AndrewW-G said:
I agree with Derek, nobody / nothing should be above criticism . . . .
. . . . except of course the royal family. After all, this is PH.

Peter Hain is, was, and ever shall be, one of the ghastliest self-serving creatures on this planet.
You have gone mad!! You're quite correct! smile

Of course he shouldn't be prosecuted for this, but he was part of an administration that did more to curtail both free speech and open discussion so frankly he deserves everything he gets.

12gauge

1,274 posts

205 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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A scumbag back in the 80s and still a scumbag now.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

286 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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Oh, lovely. He can share a cell with the Huhneymonster. Deep joy...hehe

Fittster

20,120 posts

244 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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A contempt of court case against the Labour MP Peter Hain over criticisms he made of a judge in Northern Ireland will not proceed, the high court in Belfast has ruled.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/may/17/pet...

Fittster

20,120 posts

244 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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12gauge said:
A scumbag back in the 80s and still a scumbag now.
Does founding the Anti-Nazi League make someone a scumbag?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

286 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Fittster said:
12gauge said:
A scumbag back in the 80s and still a scumbag now.
Does founding the Anti-Nazi League make someone a scumbag?
Mr Hitler liked kittens. Still a scumbag.

Andy Zarse

10,870 posts

278 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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It's the right decision, the attempted prosecution was clearly vexatious and disgraceful.



Shame. I hate Hain. He's done more to curtail free speech and impose political correctness than almost anyone else I can think of except Harperson.

12gauge

1,274 posts

205 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Fittster said:
Does founding the Anti-Nazi League make someone a scumbag?
If theyre anything like UAF, it doesnt help, but i was thinking more along the lines of IRA sympathizing.