Terminal Services 2K3
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alunr

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1,676 posts

288 months

Tuesday 20th July 2004
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Anyone running this?
Any reccomendations for which terminals to use?
Any reccomendations for terminal emulator software for use on old pc's - something bootable please...

Jay-Aim

598 posts

265 months

Tuesday 20th July 2004
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alunr said:
Anyone running this?
Any reccomendations for which terminals to use?
Any reccomendations for terminal emulator software for use on old pc's - something bootable please...



I'm using terminal services from XP pro to W2K with no probs

dont know what 2k3 is?

timsta

2,779 posts

270 months

Tuesday 20th July 2004
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If you want to do it propperly then get Citrix installed.

The client software will run on anythiing from a psion to dedicated wyse terminals.

Tim

alunr

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1,676 posts

288 months

Wednesday 21st July 2004
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timsta said:
If you want to do it propperly then get Citrix installed.

The client software will run on anythiing from a psion to dedicated wyse terminals.

Tim


We have a windows network with windows ce devices for remote users so I can't see the point of spending extra cash.

To be honest I'm not sure what the Citrix advantage actually is?

(Oh and W2K3 is Windows 2003)

timsta

2,779 posts

270 months

Wednesday 21st July 2004
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Citrix will give you control over individual applications. Who can access them and when, etc. It also allows you to specify bandwidth to be used and has better compresion of the data stream. So devices can connect even over a 9600bps GSM link.

If you only have a few users then it isn't worth it. But saying that, I use it on a server at home.

Tim

UpTheIron

4,058 posts

292 months

Wednesday 21st July 2004
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timsta said:
Citrix will give you control over individual applications. Who can access them and when, etc. It also allows you to specify bandwidth to be used and has better compresion of the data stream. So devices can connect even over a 9600bps GSM link.

If you only have a few users then it isn't worth it. But saying that, I use it on a server at home.

Tim


There's a few misleading statements in there!!!

timsta

2,779 posts

270 months

Wednesday 21st July 2004
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On my Server:

I am implementing control over who can access which applications. When is applied on a server login basis.

I Have connected to my server over the internet using a Toshiba Libretta and a Sierra wireless GSM Aircard at 9600bps.

True, the compresion is system specific, but Citrix allows you to use other features that reduce the bandwidth needed.

Bandwidth may be specified on mapped printers and reduced by specifying resolution/colours and audio options.


Tim (CCA)

>> Edited by timsta on Wednesday 21st July 16:48

_dj_

5,052 posts

278 months

Thursday 22nd July 2004
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timsta said:
On my Server:

I am implementing control over who can access which applications. When is applied on a server login basis.

I Have connected to my server over the internet using a Toshiba Libretta and a Sierra wireless GSM Aircard at 9600bps.

True, the compresion is system specific, but Citrix allows you to use other features that reduce the bandwidth needed.

Bandwidth may be specified on mapped printers and reduced by specifying resolution/colours and audio options.


Tim (CCA)

>> Edited by timsta on Wednesday 21st July 16:48




Rumour has it that a future SP release will enhance Terminal Services to such a level that Citrix is no longer required.
Actually simulating the functionality of metaframe with Terminal Services wouldn't be at all difficult in the majority of cases.
You can argue that RDP 5.1 isn't as efficient as ICA but it's debateable. At the end of the day TS is usually all that people need - as long as the systems are configured intelligently.
Colours? You're having a laugh. The same colours are supported in Windows 2003. In addition, the old algorithms used in previous incarnations of ICA mean that 256 colours is often more bandwidth intensive than 16 bit.


Darren (CCEA, if we're really interested in qualifications).


>> Edited by _dj_ on Thursday 22 July 00:19

>> Edited by _dj_ on Thursday 22 July 00:20

timsta

2,779 posts

270 months

Thursday 22nd July 2004
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_dj_ said:

timsta said:
On my Server:

I am implementing control over who can access which applications. When is applied on a server login basis.

I Have connected to my server over the internet using a Toshiba Libretta and a Sierra wireless GSM Aircard at 9600bps.

True, the compresion is system specific, but Citrix allows you to use other features that reduce the bandwidth needed.

Bandwidth may be specified on mapped printers and reduced by specifying resolution/colours and audio options.


Tim (CCA)

>> Edited by timsta on Wednesday 21st July 16:48





Rumour has it that a future SP release will enhance Terminal Services to such a level that Citrix is no longer required.
Actually simulating the functionality of metaframe with Terminal Services wouldn't be at all difficult in the majority of cases.
You can argue that RDP 5.1 isn't as efficient as ICA but it's debateable. At the end of the day TS is usually all that people need - as long as the systems are configured intelligently.
Colours? You're having a laugh. The same colours are supported in Windows 2003. In addition, the old algorithms used in previous incarnations of ICA mean that 256 colours is often more bandwidth intensive than 16 bit.


Darren (CCEA, if we're really interested in qualifications).


>> Edited by _dj_ on Thursday 22 July 00:19

>> Edited by _dj_ on Thursday 22 July 00:20


I was just trying to clarify my previous post, which I didn't think was misleading at all.

Tim.

agent006

12,058 posts

288 months

Thursday 22nd July 2004
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As far as i can tell, the only advantage of citrix is the ability to publish seamless applications.

However, the sheer poor design of the whole thing does cancel that out somewhat.

timsta

2,779 posts

270 months

Thursday 22nd July 2004
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There are other advantages, like publishing the applications to a web page, so users can access the apps from a website. But none of that is what alunr needs.

Alunr, the cheapest good terminal I can think of that will access Terminal Services is a Wyse WinTerm 1200le

As for access via older machines, you can use a dos based client like DOSRDP XP

Tim

alunr

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1,676 posts

288 months

Thursday 22nd July 2004
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Cheers everyone you've helped loads!