Carlsson 1994 product Catalog - sweet jesus

[flatline84]

Found this by accident..

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bzh2639NLfr0YWY2Zm...

Lots of interesting machinery, how about a 190E 2.5-16 putting out 320 bhp @ 8350 rpm? 320 bhp from a 2.5 litre, 4 cylindre NA engine? What the actual fk... How many bhp/litre is that? And this is what, 20 years ago?

Does somebody have a time machine in working order, I need to travel a little and order this new

[Chris71]

128hp/litre is very good for a n/a road engine, but pretty standard in motorsport. It's less than a modern (road-going) superbike, for example.

[F1GTRUeno]

I'd much rather have any of those offerings than the current MB's.

[braddo]

At a wild guess I think a new 2.5-16 with that upgrade would have been the equivalent of something like £60-80k in today's money!

[flatline84]

Chris71 said:

128hp/litre is very good for a n/a road engine, but pretty standard in motorsport. It's less than a modern (road-going) superbike, for example.

Be that as it may, this isnt a superbike or a motorsport-car though, its just a tuned luxury sedan for the road.
I wonder how it sounds on full song. Quite nice, I suppose.

[Chris71]

flatline84 said:

Chris71 said:

128hp/litre is very good for a n/a road engine, but pretty standard in motorsport. It's less than a modern (road-going) superbike, for example.

Be that as it may, this isnt a superbike or a motorsport-car though, its just a tuned luxury sedan for the road.
I wonder how it sounds on full song. Quite nice, I suppose.

In the same way that an M3 GTS or an AMG Black Series car is a tuned luxury sedan, I guess.

[flatline84]

4 seater sedan with comfortable seats vs carbon bucket seat coupe racers? well...dunno

[paranoid airbag]

Chris71 said:

flatline84 said:

Chris71 said:

128hp/litre is very good for a n/a road engine, but pretty standard in motorsport. It's less than a modern (road-going) superbike, for example.

Be that as it may, this isnt a superbike or a motorsport-car though, its just a tuned luxury sedan for the road.
I wonder how it sounds on full song. Quite nice, I suppose.

In the same way that an M3 GTS or an AMG Black Series car is a tuned luxury sedan, I guess.

In which case, the 4.4 V8 in the GTS should have 563bhp, not 450-odd - a curiously low specific output compared the to GT3 RS 4.0. Specific output doesn't seem to have increased for a while, in fact it's possibly decreased (look at the 22B impreza, unofficially it had well over 300bhp from a 2.2L years ago, and people think the focus RS with 2.5L and similar power is impressive) - because the engine tech concerned with getting peak power hasn't improved much. The advances have been in low-rpm and low-throttle driving.