Look what I didn't set out to buy!
Look what I didn't set out to buy!
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Kermit power

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29,622 posts

242 months

Thursday 29th March 2012
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It feels like an incredibly long time since I started talking to some of my local and not quite so local bike shops about what I could get on my cycle to work scheme. In fact, that's because it is a long time ago! The upside to my employer is that we can go up to £2k, but the downsides are that we can only enter the scheme once a year, and the process takes 6 weeks! irked

So, rewinding back all those weeks, I had decided exactly what I wanted. smile I wanted a titanium-framed rapid tourer with panier rack mounts to make commuting to work easier, and a triple chainset to drag my significant frame up hills better.

Today, I at long last collected my new bike from the very nice chappies at Cycles Dauphin in Boxhill. bouncewoohoo

Of course, Sod's Law dictates that I ran out of camera battery straight after taking the first photo, but here that is, at least...



So, as you can see, it's exactly what I set out to buy! Except for the frame material, which is carbon instead of Titanium. And it hasn't got the pannier rack mounts. And it's a compact chainset rather than a triple. And it's maybe a slightly more aggressive frame geometry than I had in mind. But apart from that, it's exactly what I intended to buy! hehe

I've only had time for a quick 6 miles to try it out, but that was enough for me to be absolutely over the moon with it! biggrin It's just so much better than anything I've ridden previously. Definitely a big incentive to work on getting my physique to match it! hehe

Two things surprised me...

Firstly how easy it was to get into top on a compact chainset - not something I've owned before - with even the slightest downward slope.

Secondly that it came with pedals! I had just automatically assumed that any such bike would come without pedals for the owner to fit whatever system they wanted, but this came with Derosa-badged Look Keos as part of the package. I've put SPDs on anyway, as I've got them on my other two bikes and don't want to splash out on multiple pairs of shoes & winter boots, so now I've got a spare set of pedals to dispose of. Ebay here I come, I guess!

The one and only thing I'm not completely convinced by is the white on the tyres. Other than that, I am a distinctly happy bunny!

robpearson

441 posts

231 months

Thursday 29th March 2012
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Depending on where you live, and how fit you are, you'll have no issues getting into big ring. My road bike rarely leaves it... Perhaps north birminam is too flat to need anything else...

robpearson

441 posts

231 months

Thursday 29th March 2012
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Lovely bike by the way:-). My next bike is supposedly very similar to your original spec. Titanium, panniers, a littl more relaxed so I can pull the son in his trailer... Of course I won't expect that to be what arrives.

Kermit power

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Thursday 29th March 2012
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robpearson said:
Lovely bike by the way:-). My next bike is supposedly very similar to your original spec. Titanium, panniers, a littl more relaxed so I can pull the son in his trailer... Of course I won't expect that to be what arrives.
Well I certainly know what my n+1 is! hehe

With regards to the compact gearing, my initial slight concern was that it might not give me enough on the hills, but now I'm wondering if I might run out at the other end!

robpearson

441 posts

231 months

Thursday 29th March 2012
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I thought the same, but I'm a mountain biker traditionally. Now I have learned to pedal at over 70 rpm it's less of an issue

Kermit power

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Thursday 29th March 2012
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robpearson said:
I thought the same, but I'm a mountain biker traditionally. Now I have learned to pedal at over 70 rpm it's less of an issue
I've already settled on a cadence of around 85 to 90, but that's on a standard crankset rather than a compact.

It almost certainly won't be an issue anyway, but I can always drop from a 12 to an 11 smallest cog at the back.

MadDad

3,835 posts

290 months

Thursday 29th March 2012
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Fantastic looking bike you have there fella! I shall be watching your Strava times with interest! smile

I agree with the tyres, I recommend a set of Michie Krylion Carbons - I have been running them for a year with no issues at all, in all weathers. Great tyres, roll well and seem fairly puncture resistant.

I am also running a compact with an 11-25 and very rarely find myself in the granny cog, my cadence tends to settle into the mid-late 90's or early 100's (on a good day) unless I am climbing. I would not worry about going from a 12 to an 11 unless you are finding yourself spinning out on a regular basis - which is unlikely. If you are finding yourself reaching for the granny ring too often it might be worth considering a 12-28 while you build up your strength, then swap back to the 12-25 when you find yourself mid-cassette most of the time.

Anyhow, enjoy!!!!!!!

The Walrus

1,857 posts

234 months

Friday 30th March 2012
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After all that advice and you go and buy the opposite !!! bloody typical !!

Enjoy your new ride.

Kermit power

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Friday 30th March 2012
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The Walrus said:
After all that advice and you go and buy the opposite !!! bloody typical !!

Enjoy your new ride.
It was your fault!!! punch

hehe

I took your advice to go up to Dauphin and look at Lynskey stuff, only to find it was gorgeous, way over budget, and promptly put me off the other Ti bikes I'd looked at.

Hence the complete U-turn. smile

The Walrus

1,857 posts

234 months

Friday 30th March 2012
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Kermit power said:
It was your fault!!! punch

hehe

I took your advice to go up to Dauphin and look at Lynskey stuff, only to find it was gorgeous, way over budget, and promptly put me off the other Ti bikes I'd looked at.

Hence the complete U-turn. smile
Woops whistle

I thought you could of got a Lynskey within your budget with a big compromise on components though no ?

Kermit power

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Friday 30th March 2012
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The Walrus said:
Woops whistle

I thought you could of got a Lynskey within your budget with a big compromise on components though no?
They only had the Helix frame, and that alone was something like £1,700 iirc!

Kermit power

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Friday 30th March 2012
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Camera battery suitably replenished, I took a few more pictures...










Johnny

9,652 posts

313 months

Friday 30th March 2012
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Very nice thumbup

Top buying BTW wink

Kermit power

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Friday 30th March 2012
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And whilst the upgrade from Veloce to Centaur Black & Red was something I chose to pay extra for, the carbon levers and cranks were an unexpected bonus! biggrin




Kermit power

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Friday 30th March 2012
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And one more which had sneaked on to the next page! hehe


BPC7

391 posts

266 months

Friday 30th March 2012
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Really great looking machine but agree with losing the white tyres

mcelliott

10,490 posts

210 months

Friday 30th March 2012
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Very pretty bike there Kermit, sure it goes as well as it looks! That groupset looks quality. I've got Athena on my bike which I rate extremely highly. Be very interested how you get on with the Centaur. smile

Kermit power

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Friday 30th March 2012
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mcelliott said:
Very pretty bike there Kermit, sure it goes as well as it looks! That groupset looks quality. I've got Athena on my bike which I rate extremely highly. Be very interested how you get on with the Centaur. smile
It's hard to describe, but it feels more mechanical than the 105 groupset on my other (9yr old) road bike. It feels like a much more positive engagement, but at the same time feels like it takes more of an effort to engage, if that makes sense!

One thing I haven't got used to yet is where my sweet spot is in terms of ratios and cadence. I keep finding myself wanting too big a rear cog when I'm on the big ring on the front, but if i drop to the small ring, I find myself wanting too small a cog at the back, if that makes sense?

giarc

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195 months

Friday 30th March 2012
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Fantastic looking bike you have there Mr Kermit. I love the blue streak along the top tube.

mcelliott

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210 months

Friday 30th March 2012
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Kermit power said:
mcelliott said:
Very pretty bike there Kermit, sure it goes as well as it looks! That groupset looks quality. I've got Athena on my bike which I rate extremely highly. Be very interested how you get on with the Centaur. smile
It's hard to describe, but it feels more mechanical than the 105 groupset on my other (9yr old) road bike. It feels like a much more positive engagement, but at the same time feels like it takes more of an effort to engage, if that makes sense!

One thing I haven't got used to yet is where my sweet spot is in terms of ratios and cadence. I keep finding myself wanting too big a rear cog when I'm on the big ring on the front, but if i drop to the small ring, I find myself wanting too small a cog at the back, if that makes sense?
Yep, both points make sense, mine also came with a compact which I'd never used before. Like you I quickly found myself on the smaller sprockets which I was never used to when I ran a 53 chain set! However I found the compact very handy for the hills - I've got an 11 speed cassette on mine so I barely have to use the inner ring. Incidentally I found the thumb shifters very easy to get used to. That's coming from someone that's had 20 years of Shimano use.