what fuel do you use?
what fuel do you use?
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BAKS42

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200 posts

195 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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With everyone panicking about fuel, my range says i have 50 miles and i can only find normal unleaded, i'm refussing to run my car on anything but super unleaded so change of plan this weekend, i will wash the car and let it rest until shell v power comes back in.

What fuel do you use? i saw a brand new m5 this morning on my search filling up with normal 95

mmm-five

12,233 posts

310 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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I choose to use V-Power or Tesco Momentum.

However, there's nothing wrong with running a car on fuel it was designed to run on. It may run better, give better economy, give more power on SuperUnleaded, but your owner manual will tell you the range it's designed for. If you're simply driving your normal motorway commute then the normal unleaded won't do any harm.

You can also simply buy some octane booster from Halfords and pour a bottle in with your peasant-grade unleaded.

However if you're that concerned for your car's wellbeing, I assume you'll want to go out of your way to buy 101/105/110 RON fuel when you go for a fast drive, as that's much better over V-Power than V-Power is over normal unleaded.

CooperS

4,580 posts

245 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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mmm-five said:
I choose to use V-Power or Tesco Momentum.

However, there's nothing wrong with running a car on fuel it was designed to run on. It may run better, give better economy, give more power on SuperUnleaded, but your owner manual will tell you the range it's designed for. If you're simply driving your normal motorway commute then the normal unleaded won't do any harm.

You can also simply buy some octane booster from Halfords and pour a bottle in with your peasant-grade unleaded.

However if you're that concerned for your car's wellbeing, I assume you'll want to go out of your way to buy 101/105/110 RON fuel when you go for a fast drive, as that's much better over V-Power than V-Power is over normal unleaded.
That is a very confused post?

Anyway you car wont die if you put 95 in it nor imo will it feel like it has any less power, it may give you slightly less MPG but not by much.... i wouldn't worry and get out in it.....

BigAz

11 posts

171 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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I use V-Power Diesel in the 320td and V-Power Unleaded in the Cooper S.

The cars just run better on it, it's like running a person on McDonalds or nice posh restaurant food.

Better MPG, more power, and (most importantly) in the Mini, more exhaust pops smile

ecain63

10,646 posts

201 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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VPower is my religion.

I wouldnt recomend using 95RON in a modern M car as they were designed to use 97RON+.

hesnotthemessiah

2,121 posts

230 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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V Power

leeson660

429 posts

191 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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V Power all the way

I cannot understand people who spend all the money on buying a highly tuned M car then go and stick normal crappy fuel in it! confused

shim

2,051 posts

234 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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leeson660 said:
V Power all the way

I cannot understand people who spend all the money on buying a highly tuned M car then go and stick normal crappy fuel in it! confused
Although i guess you have no proof that vowed makes the car any faster and it's costing you say 7% more to fill up.

Davidonly

1,080 posts

219 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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V Power or BP Ultimate if can't reach a Shell outlet. Or in scotland anything that has a high octane as things 'thin out' a fair bit oop north so vary rarely 95 and all is well

CooperS

4,580 posts

245 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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shim said:
leeson660 said:
V Power all the way

I cannot understand people who spend all the money on buying a highly tuned M car then go and stick normal crappy fuel in it! confused
Although i guess you have no proof that vowed makes the car any faster and it's costing you say 7% more to fill up.
Exactly, i use V power don't get me wrong, i got another £5 voucher through due to my cars addiction to the stuff...

But the OP was saying he wasn't going to use his car because of the lack of availability of the stuff..... why? In reality on normal roads on average days when its not to extremely hot or freezing cold the effect to my mind is very almost null but it is good knowing your putting the best stuff in......



leeson660

429 posts

191 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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shim said:
Although i guess you have no proof that vowed makes the car any faster and it's costing you say 7% more to fill up.
Well that's not actually correct. Take the s54 for example, stick the standard fuel in it and unless I'm mistaken the engine will run significantly down on power and the ecu actually adjusts for the lower octane.

I'm pretty sure it was the same on my old boss's evo8 fq330.

Don't know if this applies on the new m5.

Sethlj

367 posts

281 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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shim said:
Although i guess you have no proof that vowed makes the car any faster and it's costing you say 7% more to fill up.
Do the mpg calcs - V power is almost cheaper mile for mile. wink

ecain63

10,646 posts

201 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Doesnt the lower grade fuel also pose a risk to the cats due to higher exhaust temps? Pinking occuring in the engine, ecu retarding ignition etc. Why risk it? The manual says 97, so...........!


Contigo

3,130 posts

235 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Mrs had to put some in this week (she needed it and the station only had 95Ron) due to the panic buying so she put half a tank in and as soon as I got back I topped it up with SUL. Should be ok just the once shouldn't it?

ecain63

10,646 posts

201 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Yeah, the odd tank of crude once in a blue moon wont kill it. The danger is in the type of useage. If your in M mode or generally giving it some stick the ecu is going to be working overtime trying to protect itself. At normal road speeds the car shouldnt suffer too much. I wouldnt run it on 95 for more than 1/2 a tanks worth before topping it up with 97+. It probably wont harm the car, but with these cars costing nearly as much in major repairs as they are physically worth is it a risk you should take unless its an emergency?

Contigo

3,130 posts

235 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Wouldn't dream of it and felt uneasy with even 1/2 in, it felt different and sluggish to me even driving very slow in it so as soon as I could I brimmed it with SUL.

andygtt

8,345 posts

290 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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I only ever use 95 in my E60 M5... it clearly says can be run on either 95 or 97 ron, unlike my old M3 that has to run on 97ron min.

Contigo

3,130 posts

235 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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The M5 manual states.

Your BMW M5's engine is rated to run on:

Super Plus,98 RON. Fill up with fuel of this grade whenever possible, so that the nominal performance and fuel consumption values are achieved.

The Minimum permissible grade is:

Lead-free premium grade petrol, 95 RON.

So whilst it is not advised against the used of 95 RON, it's not going to help improve the performance of the car or actually reach the best fuel economy so surely it's a false economy as not only do you not get the best performance you suffer from worse fuel economy.

pilchardthecat

7,483 posts

205 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Usually v-power or waitrose super (which is BP ultimate) ... occasionally tesco but i get a drop in mpg on that stuff so i only use it if i need to.

Havent put any 95 in for a couple of years, and then just a couple of tanks - really notice the drop in power over 5 k rpm..... have also heard too much about o2 sensors failing on the cheap stuff

Edited by pilchardthecat on Saturday 31st March 22:35

_Leg_

2,827 posts

237 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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V power, my e92 m3 has only ever had 1 tank of anything else and that led to a visit to B&M in Leeds as it didn't like it and went into reduced power mode. Wtf is that all about? Just a reset though. Still, weird.