Time for us to raise our game
Time for us to raise our game
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trackday addict

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503 posts

230 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Awesome to see & time for us to stretch ourselves & the car this year smile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...

Great to see Nissans now start getting very close to becoming the fastest jap cars in the world (current record 6.38)

leffehoegaarden

199 posts

172 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Speaking as a spectator, it's a crying shame that this electrifying tussle for top dog in the Nissan performance world is taking place in an intercontinental capacity. I can only imagine what would happen if we had 6 or more Jap cars all runnung into the 6's here in the UK, the next generation of racefans would deffinitely be beating a path to the dragstrip.

Well John, sounds like you've got your work cut out what with Scotty having a bigger motor on the way. I'm predicting a 6.22 from you this season.

Go get 'em!


Burndown

732 posts

187 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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I think the problem with this sort of racing is that it is not "new" or "trendy" anymore so the competition is just who can be the quickest rather than there being the interest for a competitive 8 car class in the UK.

leffehoegaarden

199 posts

172 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Burndown said:
I think the problem with this sort of racing is that it is not "new" or "trendy" anymore so the competition is just who can be the quickest rather than there being the interest for a competitive 8 car class in the UK.
Wow. just, wow.


trackday addict

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Saturday 31st March 2012
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Its only in it's infancy in comparison to typical drag racing and whether you like it or not worldwide public interest fantastic thanks to the links back to the road cars we share our engines with. Give it time and I'm sure it will only get bigger and better. In the meantime we will just concern ourselves in getting our little team to be competitive on a world class stage Nd not worry about an 8 or 4 car field smile


Burndown said:
I think the problem with this sort of racing is that it is not "new" or "trendy" anymore so the competition is just who can be the quickest rather than there being the interest for a competitive 8 car class in the UK.

Squating Neville

150 posts

177 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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leffehoegaarden said:
Speaking as a spectator, it's a crying shame that this electrifying tussle for top dog in the Nissan performance world is taking place in an intercontinental capacity. I can only imagine what would happen if we had 6 or more Jap cars all runnung into the 6's here in the UK, the next generation of racefans would deffinitely be beating a path to the dragstrip.

Well John, sounds like you've got your work cut out what with Scotty having a bigger motor on the way. I'm predicting a 6.22 from you this season.

Go get 'em!
I am not 100% sure of the best time of the Nissan in the UK but i think its around 6.6 seconds, A 6.2 second pass seems quite a big jump, at that level of Speed and Performance

trackday addict

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Saturday 31st March 2012
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6.63 last run of 2011 and yes 6.2 on the current 3.5l engine a stage to far I think.
Probably best we could hope for would be a high 6.3 and a following wind.
New car will have a 4l block (which Scott is also moving to) and then it will get really interesting.

Just great to see the Nissans getting back in the fray after many many years of the Toyota 2JZ engine being light years ahead. Lowest Mazda rx time now down to 6.51 in P Rico so all getting a lot closer

Squating Neville

150 posts

177 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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I think i red on the internet, the new car with a 4.0 ltr engine is running a standard crank,

trackday addict

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Saturday 31st March 2012
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No not in race trim - will be a full on race crank. Std crank only to set 4.0 Ltr on dyno to start with

Burndown

732 posts

187 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Will certainly be interesting to see the development of the car.

Is there any particular reason why people have been running the Toyota configuration?

trackday addict

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Saturday 31st March 2012
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Bigger cc's than the previous Nissan engine (Toyota 3.5L v Nissan RB 2.6L) + years of development done with the likes of Titan so a slightly easier safer bet rather than starting from scratch. Add a very strong engine into the mix until you start to add 50+ pounds of boost and it made good sense

Burndown

732 posts

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Saturday 31st March 2012
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Are these engines that the front runners are using modified road going engines or specific race motors built within the limitations of the original road going design.

So for example could a purpose built straight 6 with Nissan bore spacing be classed as a Nissan even though it was not built by Nissan the manufacturer.

trackday addict

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Original blocks with a lot of blood, sweat, tears, expense and experience- some concrete filled, some not.

Burndown

732 posts

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Saturday 31st March 2012
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Ironically in Drag Racing the use of standard blocks is quite retro.:-)

trackday addict

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Saturday 31st March 2012
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Indeed - :-) and then come all the "
Mod cons" ie/ fuel injection, turbos etc

Tet

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225 months

Sunday 1st April 2012
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trackday addict said:
Great to see Nissans now start getting very close to becoming the fastest jap cars in the world (current record 6.38)
The interesting thing to me about that is the question of what constitutes a Jap car? I mean, you're clearly currently in that category, with a roughly Jap body shape and a mostly Jap engine. But where do you draw the line? If you were to put a hemi in, would it still count as a Jap car? If I were to put a Jap V6 in my Capri, would that count? Over time, the body shells will morph further and further away from what's recognisable as a Jap shape. Take a look at current funny car bodies that are claiming to be a Mustang or a Monte Carlo or whatever, but are in reality only identifiable as such because of the stickers. So in a few years, if you're running with an aerodynamic body stickered up to look like a Nissan, using a purpose built billet race engine that happens to share the same bore spacing and stud pattern as a Jap engine, will that still count?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to take anything away from what you're doing (which I think is great and I wish you all the success in the world). But I'm genuinely curious about exactly what constitutes a Jap car. I've never really understood the appeal of having a separate grouping for race cars like that. FWIW, I feel much the same about Pro Stock, a class that I've grown to like over the years, but one which has nothing remotely stock about it other than in name only.

trackday addict

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Sunday 1st April 2012
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Nope I agree to be honest and should the engines go billet block then really nothing to do (apart from design) with the original.

leffehoegaarden

199 posts

172 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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I had no idea the scene was so strong in Oz.

1st round qualifying at Sydney Dragway for Factory XTreme.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCgxTJ9aPJI&fea...

Is this possible in Europe? Someting tells me it's not, but we should try.

trackday addict

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503 posts

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Monday 2nd April 2012
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yep & getting bigger all the time - times there 6.38 (Gas), 6.41 (Rayglass) 6.48 (S Porter) 6.54(Pac) etc etc

P Rico also fairly massive

leffehoegaarden

199 posts

172 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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Do the manufacturers have any involvement or is it purely aftermarket kit they're using?