The Original Coke
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Well actually this applies to both coke and Pepsi. A campaign group in California have establishedd that if you drink hundreds of liters of Coke or Pepsi and you are a rat you may get cancer. So, like thousands of other products that don't realistically have a chance of causing cancer, Cokd and Pepsi had to liable the products as possibly cancer causing.
Neither Coke or Pepsi wanted to do this do they have changed their formular the US only. It means that if you live in the states and want a real Coke you now have to go to Canada. Crazy.
Neither Coke or Pepsi wanted to do this do they have changed their formular the US only. It means that if you live in the states and want a real Coke you now have to go to Canada. Crazy.
h0b0 said:
Well actually this applies to both coke and Pepsi. A campaign group in California have establishedd that if you drink hundreds of liters of Coke or Pepsi and you are a rat you may get cancer. So, like thousands of other products that don't realistically have a chance of causing cancer, Cokd and Pepsi had to liable the products as possibly cancer causing.
Neither Coke or Pepsi wanted to do this do they have changed their formular the US only. It means that if you live in the states and want a real Coke you now have to go to Canada. Crazy.
The original coke was full of cocaine, I don't hear you moaning about that not being in the recipe any more.Neither Coke or Pepsi wanted to do this do they have changed their formular the US only. It means that if you live in the states and want a real Coke you now have to go to Canada. Crazy.
Truckosaurus said:
American 'Coke' has long been made with corn syrup so stores make a special thing about stocking "Mexican Coke" that is made with sugar.
Most stuff in the USA is made with corn syrup instead of sugar because there's a high tariff on sugar imports, allegedly to protect US sugar makers, but since there don't seem to be any of them corn syrup has to be used instead. It's the main reason American chocolate tastes like it does.hairykrishna said:
Is it not the colouring agent? So it won't actually taste any different.
No, it's used instead of sugar in a lot of US stuff.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_syrup
davepoth said:
It's the main reason American chocolate tastes like it does.
Ah, the nasty nasty flavour of American chocolate is because.. (nicked from wikipedia)Hershey process milk chocolate is cheaper to make than other types of chocolate as it is less sensitive to the freshness of the milk. The process is a trade secret, but experts speculate that the milk is partially lipolyzed, producing butyric acid, which stabilizes the milk from further fermentation. This compound gives the product a particular sour, "tangy" taste, to which the US public has become accustomed, to the point that other manufacturers often add butyric acid to their milk chocolates.[1]
So basically, they use really really old milk and add stuff so it doesn't go off completely. Nice.
I must confess I know more on this topic than I let on. I met with one of the two major companies impacted by this (Coke OR Pepsi) to find out how much of an impact this change will have on their business and how my company can reduce it. Pepsi are releasing a new version of Pepsi in California only and then moving it across the country under the new Pepsi name. My father in-law runs a Pepsi only restaurant so they have already been sending him the new Pepsi to test. Coke are just changing the formular for everyone at once. The issue is with the caramel "burning" process which is used to create the colour so should have less impact on flavor than other changes before.
Coke and Pepsi are sweetend with what ever comes cheapest in that country so South American product is very different to North American. America and Japan are sweetend with corn syrup whereas the Irish use beets and most use cane. There were huge subsidies on corn syrup to help the farmers so it became very cheap. now though, they use it to produce ethanol whci is used as an aditive in petrol in the US so the Syrup is expensive.
Both Coke and Pepsi do limited run clasic products which are closer to the original but as has been mentioned before Coke is so called due to its Coke content so my original post was a little tongue in cheek.
Coke and Pepsi are sweetend with what ever comes cheapest in that country so South American product is very different to North American. America and Japan are sweetend with corn syrup whereas the Irish use beets and most use cane. There were huge subsidies on corn syrup to help the farmers so it became very cheap. now though, they use it to produce ethanol whci is used as an aditive in petrol in the US so the Syrup is expensive.
Both Coke and Pepsi do limited run clasic products which are closer to the original but as has been mentioned before Coke is so called due to its Coke content so my original post was a little tongue in cheek.
h0b0 said:
I must confess I know more on this topic than I let on. I met with one of the two major companies impacted by this (Coke OR Pepsi) to find out how much of an impact this change will have on their business and how my company can reduce it.
I'm guessing you didn't get the contract as i doubt blabbing on the internet about how they have changed their recipe (touchy subject in the past) and how the old product causes cancer, was what they had in mind for reducing the impact.ViperDave said:
h0b0 said:
I must confess I know more on this topic than I let on. I met with one of the two major companies impacted by this (Coke OR Pepsi) to find out how much of an impact this change will have on their business and how my company can reduce it.
I'm guessing you didn't get the contract as i doubt blabbing on the internet about how they have changed their recipe (touchy subject in the past) and how the old product causes cancer, was what they had in mind for reducing the impact.Everything I have said here is very public knowledge in the US. The change in recipe is impacting both companies (along with many others) but is causing surprisingly little press in the US which I suppose was one of the reasons for my thread. I also did not say which of the 2 companies I was at but I can assure you my client would not mind anything I have said here. Finally, I was not bidding on the contract, I have been doing business with them for many years as we have a successful partnership.
I respect my customer's confidentiality and much more than my company is at risk if I did not.
Genelec said:
Hershey process milk chocolate is cheaper to make than other types of chocolate as it is less sensitive to the freshness of the milk. The process is a trade secret, but experts speculate that the milk is partially lipolyzed, producing butyric acid, which stabilizes the milk from further fermentation. This compound gives the product a particular sour, "tangy" taste, to which the US public has become accustomed, to the point that other manufacturers often add butyric acid to their milk chocolates.[1]
So basically, they use really really old milk and add stuff so it doesn't go off completely. Nice.
As anyone who has handled N-Butyric Acid will tell you, it literally smells disgusting. Horrid stuff. So basically, they use really really old milk and add stuff so it doesn't go off completely. Nice.
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