4 litre -v- 5 litre performance
4 litre -v- 5 litre performance
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shnozz

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Wednesday 21st July 2004
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thought Raceboy's ears might prick up at this stage

Shnozz's Chim 400 -v- DustyC's Griff 500


times were 14.8 @ terminal speed of 110mph for the Chim and 13.7 @ terminal speed of 110mph for the Griff. It has to be said that we are both novices so reaction time and controlling wheelspin was not brilliant. We both feel a second could be knocked off the times and that is more in line with the book figures for both cars.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/philip.adams83/videos/PCDV0051.AVI


and Shnozz's Chim 400 -v- Nissan Pulsar Gtir (modified)

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/philip.adams83/videos/PCDV0050.AVI


>>> Edited by shnozz on Wednesday 21st July 09:23

cosmoschick

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Wednesday 21st July 2004
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shnozz said:
times were 14.8 @ terminal speed of 110mph for the Chim


Well done Phil, I'd say that was a pretty respectable time for your Chim 400 taking into account the extra weight it was carrying! Surely DustyC can't belittle that performance...!

N17 TVR

2,937 posts

300 months

Wednesday 21st July 2004
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Good going Phil, just goes to show its not the size of your wand, it's the magic in it.

How much tread did you get through ?

shnozz

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Wednesday 21st July 2004
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N17 TVR said:
How much tread did you get through ?


enough that I am in the Rover all week as the rears are no longer road legal.... just ordered some Toyos in at a local tyre fitter for the weekend.

To be fair it probably wasnt that much as they were nearing legal limits anyway. Didnt help that first run against the pulsar I did the proper burn out business before the start line to warm up the tyres.

DustyC

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Wednesday 21st July 2004
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cosmoschick said:

shnozz said:
times were 14.8 @ terminal speed of 110mph for the Chim



Well done Phil, I'd say that was a pretty respectable time for your Chim 400 taking into account the extra weight it was carrying! Surely DustyC can't belittle that performance...!



No way. It was a brillaint run.
Since we btoh had exactly the same Drag racing experience at this point it probably gives a good comparison of the 500 and 400.

Infact I was chatting with Phil saying that there isnt really all that much difference between a 4.0 and 5.0.
At least not as much as people on here seem to think.

I have spent a long weekend in the company of a 4.5 Chim too and again the performance difference is even smaller.

I think its just a case of the differences getting hyped up on here a lot.

whatever next? I'll be saying I like Chims!

shnozz

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Wednesday 21st July 2004
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cosmoschick said:

shnozz said:
times were 14.8 @ terminal speed of 110mph for the Chim



Well done Phil, I'd say that was a pretty respectable time for your Chim 400 taking into account the extra weight it was carrying! Surely DustyC can't belittle that performance...!



cheers True about the extra weight although I was never going to take it seriously enough to chop off justin trousersnake for the sake of triumphing over my fellow countyman.

Dusty and I had a real laugh and it was great pitching the cars against each other which was more luck than judgment. Interesting to see the 4 and 5 against each other and even more interesting for the terminal speeds to be identical. The torque of the 5 litre would probably become a lot more apparent over a mile or so it has to be said.

HarryW

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298 months

Wednesday 21st July 2004
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Nice to see the banter leading up to this has been born out :calp:. As we all knew/know on the road you'd be hard pushed to spot the difference in anything but a long dual carriageway lug.

Harry and a 13.79 @ 110mph for a 4.0 V8S

mike s

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278 months

Wednesday 21st July 2004
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Did you beat the Pulsar phil?

HeyAndy

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278 months

Wednesday 21st July 2004
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There's me thinking a 5 was meant to be superior than a 4.

DustyC

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283 months

Wednesday 21st July 2004
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Launch with Shnozz
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(when Fotango decides to work, for now click here).

Got any mods Harry?

>> Edited by DustyC on Wednesday 21st July 10:31

V8 Archie

4,703 posts

277 months

Wednesday 21st July 2004
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Well done all

Especially Harry! Mind you, I suspect you know what you're up to a little more than Shnozz and DustyC .

I trust both DustyC was running al fresco aswell as Shnozz. If not those times would be even closer when running in the same configuration.

DustyC

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Wednesday 21st July 2004
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What were your times on your first 2 goes Harry?
I only had 2 goes due to a hangover and wanting sleep more than speed!

DustyC

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Wednesday 21st July 2004
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HeyAndy said:
There's me thinking a 5 was meant to be superior than a 4.


Well then you were wrong.

Its a Griff thats superior to a Chim

shnozz

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Wednesday 21st July 2004
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V8 Archie said:
Especially Harry! Mind you, I suspect you know what you're up to a little more than Shnozz and DustyC .


yep, like knowing how to spend £5k on your engine

deeen

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274 months

Wednesday 21st July 2004
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DustyC said:

HeyAndy said:
There's me thinking a 5 was meant to be superior than a 4.



Well then you were wrong.

Its a Griff thats superior to a Chim


Wasnt there a thread about this somewhere?

DustyC

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Wednesday 21st July 2004
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shnozz said:

V8 Archie said:
Especially Harry! Mind you, I suspect you know what you're up to a little more than Shnozz and DustyC .



yep, like knowing how to spend £5k on your engine


And checking your time against mine, swearing, then having another go, long after Id given up!


Perhaps having a 500 is more economical after all!

DustyC

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Wednesday 21st July 2004
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deeen said:


DustyC said:



HeyAndy said:
There's me thinking a 5 was meant to be superior than a 4.





Well then you were wrong.

Its a Griff thats superior to a Chim




Wasnt there a thread about this somewhere?



I think you'll find quite a few if you have a good look around.
Then again you'll also find a lot of 4 v 5 threads too.

Theres only so many things we can argue about so we generally have to have the same argument a few times over.
"Is this the full 5 minute arguement?"

>> Edited by DustyC on Wednesday 21st July 10:50

deeen

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Wednesday 21st July 2004
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I was assuming you were arguing in your free time...

shnozz

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Wednesday 21st July 2004
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deeen said:
I was assuming you were arguing in your free time...


oh no, in our free time we complimented each other's cars. Arguing is reserved for work time on PH.

HarryW

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298 months

Wednesday 21st July 2004
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DustyC said:

shnozz said:


V8 Archie said:
Especially Harry! Mind you, I suspect you know what you're up to a little more than Shnozz and DustyC .




yep, like knowing how to spend £5k on your engine



And checking your time against mine, swearing, then having another go, long after Id given up!


Perhaps having a 500 is more economical after all!

I remember that , 'Dusty what'd you get' ................. a 13-point-what bollocks, better go round again I think.
Originaly got 14.1 then 14.0, slowed it all down let the car catch up with the spinning wheels a bit and got 13.7 and 13.8 always around 110 though .

Deffo right about the 5ltr though , should have put one in the V8S like Steve Cox's sprint machine first time around . Not sure I could live witht ehshape of the griff, could do with a chim size boot though

Harry

PS stop taking the pish, I may sulk