EGR valve location - 57 plated S Max?
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When you take the engine cover off, its at the back of the engine on the drivers side.
Although you won't be taking it off to clean it - exhaust front pipe/cat off, turbo off, manifold off... its a big job on these!
They are also VERY expensive. £480 from Ford. I blanked mine off and its all the better for it.
I have a 125PS 1.8TDCI Galaxy, but its identical to the S-Max under the bonnet.
Although you won't be taking it off to clean it - exhaust front pipe/cat off, turbo off, manifold off... its a big job on these!
They are also VERY expensive. £480 from Ford. I blanked mine off and its all the better for it.
I have a 125PS 1.8TDCI Galaxy, but its identical to the S-Max under the bonnet.
Got it thanks - is there a way to perhaps just clean it in situ? If you look at it - on the right hand side there are 4 torx screws) that appear to hold part of the valve on to the main body - there's a gasket in between the part and the main body.) If i unscrewed the 4 screws (one of the screws is unsighted) and pulled it apart (have to buy another gasket I guess) could I give it a clean or spray inside or is it pointless?
The large intake pipe that enters from the left is a little mucky on the inside (i've had that off the egr just to clean it and there was an oily residue around the entrance but nothing major).
The large intake pipe that enters from the left is a little mucky on the inside (i've had that off the egr just to clean it and there was an oily residue around the entrance but nothing major).
Oily residue is normal, it will be in all the boost pipework and intercooler. I removed all my pipework and intercooler at 75k to clean it and to be honest it was a waste of time.
Those 4 screws expose the screw gear assembly / EGR actuator. Its sealed from the mucky bits of the EGR, so leave it alone. When I dismantled mine it was spotless.
You simply cannot clean the EGR without removing the inlet manifold. If you are losing sleep over it then by all means give it a go, its only nuts and bolts at the end of the day, but there are lots of gaskets etc that should be replaced when you do the job, plus turbo oil feed pipes etc. I really wouldn't bother unless you are having running issues.
You need to blank the pipe that goes into the back of the valve, its about 30mm-ish in diameter and gold in colour, there are 2 bolts (10mm IIRC) that secure this pipe to the valve. This pipe runs from the exhaust to the EGR valve, this pipe is also the EGR cooler, hence if you look further down the back of the engine you will probably see the coolant feed and return lines going to it also.
Remove the 2 bolts and pull the pipe off of the valve body. Its stiff but as its corrugated it is flexible. Now make a blanking plate to fit, I used some 1mm sheet aluminium I had laying about, just trimmed it so size, and bolted it back up again. I noticed an instant improvement in responsiveness, and a slight mpg increase too, well worth doing.
I may well get a proper blanking plate made up one day, happy to get some prices if you wanted to go halves on two?
Those 4 screws expose the screw gear assembly / EGR actuator. Its sealed from the mucky bits of the EGR, so leave it alone. When I dismantled mine it was spotless.
You simply cannot clean the EGR without removing the inlet manifold. If you are losing sleep over it then by all means give it a go, its only nuts and bolts at the end of the day, but there are lots of gaskets etc that should be replaced when you do the job, plus turbo oil feed pipes etc. I really wouldn't bother unless you are having running issues.
You need to blank the pipe that goes into the back of the valve, its about 30mm-ish in diameter and gold in colour, there are 2 bolts (10mm IIRC) that secure this pipe to the valve. This pipe runs from the exhaust to the EGR valve, this pipe is also the EGR cooler, hence if you look further down the back of the engine you will probably see the coolant feed and return lines going to it also.
Remove the 2 bolts and pull the pipe off of the valve body. Its stiff but as its corrugated it is flexible. Now make a blanking plate to fit, I used some 1mm sheet aluminium I had laying about, just trimmed it so size, and bolted it back up again. I noticed an instant improvement in responsiveness, and a slight mpg increase too, well worth doing.
I may well get a proper blanking plate made up one day, happy to get some prices if you wanted to go halves on two?
The above is an image looking at the back of the engine. It would clearly be desirable to block the EGR pipe from the exhaust manifold end (No.4), but access isn't great, so I did mine from the valve end (No.2), with no issues whatsoever.
You could take the gasket to a machine shop and get them to knock you a blanking plate up, you could even cut one out of a coke tin if you so desired, although there is a (small) risk that it might disintegrate I suppose...
Actually, now you mention it, if its blanked top and bottom, you could do away with the EGR cooler pipe altogether, removing a bit of plumbing in the process, and simply join the coolant pipes together... It might even reduce inlet temps for improved mpg, reduced smoke and more power also...
I'll get onto it in the next few weeks.
On the Galaxy you have to remove the scuttle panel to get access, its a few bolts and removing the wiper arms, not hard to do at all but a bit time consuming - not sure of the arrangement on the S-Max though.
I'll get onto it in the next few weeks.
On the Galaxy you have to remove the scuttle panel to get access, its a few bolts and removing the wiper arms, not hard to do at all but a bit time consuming - not sure of the arrangement on the S-Max though.
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