Western Union
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kwak

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210 posts

173 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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I'm not really sure where I should put this, so defaulted to General Gassing. Sorry if I'm wrong.

I'm going to have a look at a car in Dortmund next week, and the situation is becoming a bit complex. First background: I'm buying the car from a Dane, we will meet the 14th in Dortmund. As it is a pretty long way to travel for the both of us, he wants a way to be sure I will show up, and that I can be sure he shows up.
His proposal is: He uses Western Union to wire the asking price to Dortmund, to be collected by himself, I do the same. We scan and send the transfer confirmation documents to each other.
I'm a bit nervous about Western Union, since it is pretty much a default tool to use for scammers. However, I see his point, and since I need to provide my ID in Dortmund to retrieve my money, I have the impression that the money is safe.

What are your opinions on this?

LuS1fer

43,077 posts

266 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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Why can't you just send him a copy bank statement to show him you have the funds? Wiring it isn't any guarantee you will show up is it? You can just recall it, surely? What he seems to want is a guarantee you will buy it. Why not just fly to Denmark and hire a car so you can both be sure.

Edited by LuS1fer on Monday 2nd April 13:42

EDLT

15,421 posts

227 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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I assume he doesn't live in Dortmund, why would he travel all that way?

I don't see how it is any different to buying a car from a motorway service station - do not do it.

loafer123

16,295 posts

236 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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kwak said:
I'm not really sure where I should put this, so defaulted to General Gassing. Sorry if I'm wrong.

I'm going to have a look at a car in Dortmund next week, and the situation is becoming a bit complex. First background: I'm buying the car from a Dane, we will meet the 14th in Dortmund. As it is a pretty long way to travel for the both of us, he wants a way to be sure I will show up, and that I can be sure he shows up.
His proposal is: He uses Western Union to wire the asking price to Dortmund, to be collected by himself, I do the same. We scan and send the transfer confirmation documents to each other.
I'm a bit nervous about Western Union, since it is pretty much a default tool to use for scammers. However, I see his point, and since I need to provide my ID in Dortmund to retrieve my money, I have the impression that the money is safe.

What are your opinions on this?
Fly to Denmark instead.

aw51 121565

4,773 posts

254 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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kwak said:
I'm not really sure where I should put this, so defaulted to General Gassing. Sorry if I'm wrong.

I'm going to have a look at a car in Dortmund next week, and the situation is becoming a bit complex. First background: I'm buying the car from a Dane, we will meet the 14th in Dortmund. As it is a pretty long way to travel for the both of us, he wants a way to be sure I will show up, and that I can be sure he shows up.
His proposal is: He uses Western Union to wire the asking price to Dortmund, to be collected by himself, I do the same. We scan and send the transfer confirmation documents to each other.
I'm a bit nervous about Western Union, since it is pretty much a default tool to use for scammers. However, I see his point, and since I need to provide my ID in Dortmund to retrieve my money, I have the impression that the money is safe.

What are your opinions on this?
Why is he wiring the asking price to Dortmund? And you doing the same? I can see that you have justified this to yourself smile , and will also admit that I don't know much of how Western Union works but I suspect this isn't the best laid plan ever in terms of ensuring your money doesn't go AWOL smile . How are you going to prove you've paid the money? By sending him the receipt number (or whatever you will use in Dortmund)? He could possibly clear you out with that info and whatever else he knows about you, I suspect.

Why not pay him a deposit on the car electronically, from your bank account to his bank account? At least your deposit is secure then.

Personally I'd walk, if he insisted on Western Union - especially if he rebuffs the idea of paying him a sum into his bank account.

Tread carefully regardless smile .

kwak

Original Poster:

210 posts

173 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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I was planning on walking if he insists on Western Union, but I was kinda hoping that you guys could confirm that way to be safe. Obviously, that's not the case.
Looks like a trip to Denmark for me then.

Tino

1,948 posts

304 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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My vague memory rememnbers a scam to do with wiring money to yourself using WU.
Something along the lines of you showing them the reciept and them claiming the dosh.
There are countless other ways to prove your affordability on a car.

AClownsPocket

899 posts

180 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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Why doesn't he just send it via bank transfer to your account. Once its there, you show him the bank statement that its there. If he doesn't want the car, then get on the internet or make a phone call and transfer it back.

That way, you have the same bank details of him as he does for you. Swift Code, IBAN etc. Shows a small element of trust on both sides. This is what I did when I sold my car to a guy in Sweden last year.

Western Union is not something I put a great deal of faith in.

mgtony

4,163 posts

211 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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If it walks like a duck, KWAKs like a duck…. hehe

Don't send any money in any form without seeing the car. You have no idea if he is who he says he is, whether the car exists etc.

If you make arrangements to meet at his home address, he'll most likely go quiet if he's a scammer. Do this before booking any flights! smile