Murdoch Jr. resigns from BSkyb
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onyx39

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11,349 posts

181 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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I suppose it was only a matter of time, I am surprised he lasted as long as he did!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17599269

Vimto156

246 posts

199 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Seems the Murdoch empire is slowly dissolving... I can't say I'm that upset by this really.

Haggleburyfinius

6,703 posts

217 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Vimto156 said:
Seems the Murdoch empire is slowly dissolving....
Hmm...we shall see.

Soovy

35,829 posts

302 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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onyx39 said:
I suppose it was only a matter of time, I am surprised he lasted as long as he did!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17599269
Off to the US where he can't be charged with perjury probably.


Turbodiesel1690

1,958 posts

201 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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fk him and all who sail in him

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

277 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Truly one of the great tragedies of our time.

Rugbyman

1,625 posts

234 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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I wonder if he overheard an OFCOM phone conversation that BSKYB were about to be found lacking the necessary appropriate qualifications to be a fit and proper organisation to broadcast





davepoth

29,395 posts

230 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Soovy said:
Off to the US where he can't be charged with perjury probably.
You jest. The US are quite happy to charge people for crimes committed in other jurisdictions; it's just a case of them bending the law to suit. I imagine it'll be some mangling of their Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. If they want him in jail, he'll go to jail.

johnfm

13,751 posts

281 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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I still struggle to understand why people are against Murdoch, Sky etc.

Apart from the upset caused to Millie Dowler's family, the rest is a storm in a teacup in the overall scheme of things.

Corrupt coppers? Blame the effin' coppers!

"Sky is overpriced" - well don't subscribe then. It isn't compulsory.

"He owns all the newspapers..." - he bought the bloody things! Most of them ste, loss making tat.

I can understand having a go at Robert Maxwell or the Enron guys - they flat out stole from their employees and were fraudulent scumbags.

Just seems to me Murdoch is pretty successful, his employees have been a bit dodgy and that's about it.

davepoth

29,395 posts

230 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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johnfm said:
I still struggle to understand why people are against Murdoch, Sky etc.

Apart from the upset caused to Millie Dowler's family, the rest is a storm in a teacup in the overall scheme of things.

Corrupt coppers? Blame the effin' coppers!

"Sky is overpriced" - well don't subscribe then. It isn't compulsory.

"He owns all the newspapers..." - he bought the bloody things! Most of them ste, loss making tat.

I can understand having a go at Robert Maxwell or the Enron guys - they flat out stole from their employees and were fraudulent scumbags.

Just seems to me Murdoch is pretty successful, his employees have been a bit dodgy and that's about it.
In isolation any one of these events could be explained away. But in a situation when some seriously questionable stuff happens over and over again across multiple tentacles of a business empire of which the Murdochs are the only common link, you begin to join the dots.

Murdoch Sr. has been less than scrupulous for a long time and it's just beginning to come home to roost.

colonel c

8,058 posts

270 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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I find myself having some (but not too much)sympathy for the guy. BSkyB has done quite well under his Chairmanship. His big mistake was allowing himself to be put in charge of the Newspapers, a job he apparently had no liking for.

frosted

3,549 posts

208 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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colonel c said:
I find myself having some (but not too much)sympathy for the guy. BSkyB has done quite well under his Chairmanship. His big mistake was allowing himself to be put in charge of the Newspapers, a job he apparently had no liking for.
Is that because they went to extraordinary lengths to sabotage their rivals, Or is it because the influence he had on people made him feel untouchable ?

Derek Smith

50,014 posts

279 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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johnfm said:
I still struggle to understand why people are against Murdoch, Sky etc.

Apart from the upset caused to Millie Dowler's family, the rest is a storm in a teacup in the overall scheme of things.

Corrupt coppers? Blame the effin' coppers!

"Sky is overpriced" - well don't subscribe then. It isn't compulsory.

"He owns all the newspapers..." - he bought the bloody things! Most of them ste, loss making tat.

I can understand having a go at Robert Maxwell or the Enron guys - they flat out stole from their employees and were fraudulent scumbags.

Just seems to me Murdoch is pretty successful, his employees have been a bit dodgy and that's about it.
I can't speak for anyone but myself of course, but those I've talked with who, like me, find Murdoch's influence on this country outlandishly negative, agree with me.

Murdoch's empire has become a monopoly. This is the basis of my dislike. My intense dislike.

He has gained 'favours' from various PMs over the years. He met with Thatcher and all of a sudden he was not put forward for the monopolies commission to look into his, well, monopoly.

Major doesn't fall into the same trap as Thatcher so Murdoch goes to the village idiot, promises total support and we get Blair. All done by the support of his papers and Fox News.

Brown ignores him so he switches allegiance to the tories but failed to get them elected.

The papers give a considerable ROI one way or another.

He attacks the BBC, giving lectures in stadia that he has bought and the government follows his every wish. Things like the loss of Radio Times, the move to Salford, drastic cuts to the corporation all came after criticisms from Murdoch.

It takes two parties to collude in bribery and both are as guilty as each other. His company, his papers, bribed the police, if the enquiry is to be believed. That means both parties are at fault. I think that the emails reveal just how much of the hacking and such the Murdoch's were aware of.

He is certainly successful but success isn't the only criterion by which to judge a person.

Rugbyman

1,625 posts

234 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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Derek Smith said:
He is certainly successful but success isn't the only criterion by which to judge a person.
This

Its not what you do its the way that you do it

Eric Mc

125,885 posts

296 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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Rugbyman said:
Derek Smith said:
He is certainly successful but success isn't the only criterion by which to judge a person.
This

Its not what you do its the way that you do it
One of the truest phrases in the English language.

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

255 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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As opposed to what, an obviously left leaning pro eu pro large state bbc?. I know which one is more dangerous to this country.

Eric Mc

125,885 posts

296 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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markcoznottz said:
As opposed to what, an obviously left leaning pro eu pro large state bbc?. I know which one is more dangerous to this country.
Don't you realise the damage Murdoch has done to the psyche of this country since he arrived on these shores in 1969?

We all complain about tabloid culture, celebrity adulation and the general dumbing down of Britain. A large part of the blame for that can be fairly and squarely placed at the feet of Murdoch.

roachcoach

3,975 posts

186 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Don't you realise the damage Murdoch has done to the psyche of this country since he arrived on these shores in 1969?

We all complain about tabloid culture, celebrity adulation and the general dumbing down of Britain. A large part of the blame for that can be fairly and squarely placed at the feet of Murdoch.
To be fair, if it didn't sell, they wouldn't do it. Bit chicken & egg perhaps.

Alfa numeric

3,169 posts

210 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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markcoznottz said:
As opposed to what, an obviously left leaning pro eu pro large state bbc?. I know which one is more dangerous to this country.
Murdoch's not always right leaning...



toasty

8,419 posts

251 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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Eric Mc said:
We all complain about tabloid culture, celebrity adulation and the general dumbing down of Britain. A large part of the blame for that can be fairly and squarely placed at the feet of Murdoch.
We all complain? Not really. Many people adore it, much to other's distaste. If it wasn't popular, it wouldn't sell.

Murdoch's business is to make money and give people what they want. Yes, his companies produce some complete tat but also some high quality journalism and programming.

If you want a cause of the downfall of Britain, I'd point the finger at Grange Hill. ;-)