What image does MG have to you these days?
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Just interested in peoples opinions on this really. Having bought a Diesel ZT recently I have spent a bit of time reading up on their current status and then they manage to get a win at the BTCC on Sunday on their first weekend.
Can the introduction of the diesel engined MG6, the arrival of the super mini MG and the BTCC coverage mean that in 2012 MG could be an up and coming brand again?
Nick
Can the introduction of the diesel engined MG6, the arrival of the super mini MG and the BTCC coverage mean that in 2012 MG could be an up and coming brand again?
Nick
Having seen an MG6 first hand, the build quality seems rather good (the panel fit is remarkable) and it's a nice looking car... but they don't seem to be selling all that well so far. Lack of a diesel is a big reason for that, but also the previous image of MG Rover.
The BTCC performance was great, and should certainly help the brand sell. Win on Sunday, sell on Monday, as the saying goes. Having said that, the BTCC car doesn't have an MG engine and the car is not built by MG but by Triple 8... it's quite far removed from the road car (which is pretty normal for touring cars, really).
The BTCC performance was great, and should certainly help the brand sell. Win on Sunday, sell on Monday, as the saying goes. Having said that, the BTCC car doesn't have an MG engine and the car is not built by MG but by Triple 8... it's quite far removed from the road car (which is pretty normal for touring cars, really).
Currently running a petrol ZT 1.8 and an MGF. I love them both, get the 'its a Rover in drag' comments but I don't care - I have had Rovers and have liked them too.
I like the older MG's as to Me they look different to the other cars on the road, I also like they way they drive etc.
Not too sure about the looks of the MG6 - bit too Jap like for Me, also its a crying shame such a famous British marque is now owned by the Chinese!
I like the older MG's as to Me they look different to the other cars on the road, I also like they way they drive etc.
Not too sure about the looks of the MG6 - bit too Jap like for Me, also its a crying shame such a famous British marque is now owned by the Chinese!
To me - strangely, British-historically. But now Chinese.
I'd never say never. If they did a good car, i'd have a look.
I think they've ruined things a little themselves by appointing what i'd consider to be 'low-end' dealers - i.e. those who sell stuff like Ssangyong or those Axiam cars - that kind of thing. And to me, they all seem a bit here today, maybe gone bust tomorrow.
Whereas the 'old' MG of the early 2000's when i so desperately wanted a ZR as an 18 yr old were old Rover dealers who'd been around years.
I'd never say never. If they did a good car, i'd have a look.
I think they've ruined things a little themselves by appointing what i'd consider to be 'low-end' dealers - i.e. those who sell stuff like Ssangyong or those Axiam cars - that kind of thing. And to me, they all seem a bit here today, maybe gone bust tomorrow.
Whereas the 'old' MG of the early 2000's when i so desperately wanted a ZR as an 18 yr old were old Rover dealers who'd been around years.
I look favourably on MG. A friend had a ZT estate and I quite liked it.
The problem they have is not with their image, it's coming up with cars worth buying.
They have a long way to go to become as appealing as an Audi or BMW to company car drivers (low emissions and monthly lease rates), or being as reliable as a Japanese or Korean brand, let alone building a performance reputation for those of us interested in such things.
The problem they have is not with their image, it's coming up with cars worth buying.
They have a long way to go to become as appealing as an Audi or BMW to company car drivers (low emissions and monthly lease rates), or being as reliable as a Japanese or Korean brand, let alone building a performance reputation for those of us interested in such things.
None of them appeal to me on any level.
The closest is the 75 (whatever that was called as an 'MG') with the V8, simply because it's a V8.
I can't think of a single reason I'd buy one, or even consider one, there just seems to be a long list of alternatives that are better in so many ways.
The closest is the 75 (whatever that was called as an 'MG') with the V8, simply because it's a V8.
I can't think of a single reason I'd buy one, or even consider one, there just seems to be a long list of alternatives that are better in so many ways.
DanDC5 said:
From what I heard off a mechanic friend who saw one up close not long ago the 'all new' MG6 is actually a Rover 75 underneath. Seems like the owners may change but the way things are done never will.
You see this is he sort of nonsense that gets trotted out by so called professionals and passed on to the buying public. The 6 shares the front subframe with the 75 and that's it, hardly a 75 underneath then.Nick
HorneyMX5 said:
Just interested in peoples opinions on this really. Having bought a Diesel ZT recently I have spent a bit of time reading up on their current status and then they manage to get a win at the BTCC on Sunday on their first weekend.
Can the introduction of the diesel engined MG6, the arrival of the super mini MG and the BTCC coverage mean that in 2012 MG could be an up and coming brand again?
Nick
I like MG's, had 4 in the past of various types. Not seen a new MG6 on the road though and even after attempting to get a brochure and failed it leaves me saddened Can the introduction of the diesel engined MG6, the arrival of the super mini MG and the BTCC coverage mean that in 2012 MG could be an up and coming brand again?
Nick
Seems they just not keen on wanting to sell new cars.
Older ones I love still and shows that you could buy British and be proud of it! Well I certainly enjoyed all of mine and would have no issues having another.
DanDC5 said:
From what I heard off a mechanic friend who saw one up close not long ago the 'all new' MG6 is actually a Rover 75 underneath. Seems like the owners may change but the way things are done never will.
What you mean they are doing EXACTLY the same f
king thing EVERY other car maker does!!!!! 
shock horror, oh the indecency of it all 
First image that comes to mind is my old Damask Red (not the one in the picture, mind) BGT V8 that I had over twenty years ago. Slightly bigger cam and a lovely Holley 390 carb on it.
Lovely old car that flew and made a noise to die for.
These Chinese things don't even register on my radar to be totally fair.
HorneyMX5 said:
DanDC5 said:
From what I heard off a mechanic friend who saw one up close not long ago the 'all new' MG6 is actually a Rover 75 underneath. Seems like the owners may change but the way things are done never will.
You see this is he sort of nonsense that gets trotted out by so called professionals and passed on to the buying public. The 6 shares the front subframe with the 75 and that's it, hardly a 75 underneath then.Nick
ds at Ford eh?? Not like you'd see BMW doing something similar would you, the Z3 didn't use E30 suspension and 3 Series compact certainly had nothing to do with older cars.
Umm I wonder is that 998 Porsche really a clean sheet design, or more a 996 with evolutionary changes? :idea
Perhaps that Jag XF isn't a re-skinned S-Type??
These days? One of potential. If they get it right, it could be great.
The main reason the 6 isn't selling is because it's too expensive to tax and run in 1.8 Turbo form. What they need is a turbo-diesel - which is on its way.
When this forms the mainstay of their range (and there's no reason why it shouldn't. The biggest seller in its bracket is the Vauxhall Insignia diesel hatchback, and it undercuts it on price and insurance and can potentially match it on tax with the new engine), the 1.8T can be made into a sporty BTCC-inspired turbonuttermobile along the lines of a big, cut-price Focus ST. Sell a few with Momentum liveries and they'll capture some of the lairiness they hinted at back when they sold well.
And this will be a perfect platform from which to launch a new MG-badged roadster. If they get a big-selling saloon in their range, I don't reckon they need to be cutting-edge or the biggest seller in their class - MGs never were and that's not what MG is about, it's about cheap, honest fun with a dashing of practicality.
A sort-of British version of what Peugeot was in the Eighties and Nineties would be perfect IMHO.
The main reason the 6 isn't selling is because it's too expensive to tax and run in 1.8 Turbo form. What they need is a turbo-diesel - which is on its way.
When this forms the mainstay of their range (and there's no reason why it shouldn't. The biggest seller in its bracket is the Vauxhall Insignia diesel hatchback, and it undercuts it on price and insurance and can potentially match it on tax with the new engine), the 1.8T can be made into a sporty BTCC-inspired turbonuttermobile along the lines of a big, cut-price Focus ST. Sell a few with Momentum liveries and they'll capture some of the lairiness they hinted at back when they sold well.
And this will be a perfect platform from which to launch a new MG-badged roadster. If they get a big-selling saloon in their range, I don't reckon they need to be cutting-edge or the biggest seller in their class - MGs never were and that's not what MG is about, it's about cheap, honest fun with a dashing of practicality.
A sort-of British version of what Peugeot was in the Eighties and Nineties would be perfect IMHO.
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