Dog On a Lead?
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Marty Funkhouser

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5,443 posts

204 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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I'm taking my 4 month old out on the common to try and get her to sleep, she's crying her eyes out.

I see this guy with two dogs, a Mastiff and a Yorkie. Neither are on leads.

My baby is just starting to calm down when the mastiff bounds over, within 6 feet of the buggy and barks loudly - this really upsets my baby.

I look at the guy and point at the dog like why isnt it on a lead? He had absolutely no control of it and if I'd had a toddler it could have easily had a nip at her (or me!)

The dog runs off but now that my child is in hysterics it seems to attract the dog back for more aggressive running and barking.

Needless to say I was furious and was shouting at the owner to control his dog. I dont know what I'd have done if it had come much closer.

Am I being too sensitive? Shouldnt dog owners have control of their animals? I realise they want to let them off the lead but if there's a buggy/kids about its irresponsible IMO.

sherman

14,873 posts

238 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Marty Funkhouser said:
Am I being too sensitive?
Yep

NDA

24,754 posts

248 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Nope, I'd feel the same way.

Quite why anyone needs to own a mastiff is beyond me, they were bred to be aggressive fighting dogs. Perfect to have around toddlers in a public park.

cazzer

8,883 posts

271 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Think the word is "common".

Seriously though, I have a mastiff that barks when she's excited.
There is a big difference between an aggressive bark and an excited bark.

The event you've basically described comes down to "Dog barked, baby cried"


Oh and just to answer the previous post about them being aggressive....
Mine is scared of her own shadow and runs away from next doors yorkshire terrier.


Puggit

49,440 posts

271 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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The dog owner legally is required to keep the dog under control - I have a very excitable young dog who is not let off the lead. He doesn't have a bad bone in his body, but he will investigate everything!

Jamie VTS

1,238 posts

170 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Don't want to be too controversial but surely the common Is quite a popular place for dog walkers especially just after work? Or Is it not a place where there is likely to be dogs off the lead?

HowMuchLonger

3,026 posts

216 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Marty Funkhouser said:
if I'd had a toddler it could have easily had a nip at her (or me!)
But you don't and it didn't.

Just relax, and enjoy the common space.

grumbledoak

32,362 posts

256 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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You are not being too sensitive. The owner is being selfish, inconsiderate, and irresponsible. But, as with the population at large, some dog owners are blinkered tts.

NoVetec

9,967 posts

196 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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It sounds like the dog was 'playing' with your kid, or maybe that and a combination of interest?

Most dog owners who have their mutts off the lead know they are safe and know they come back to them when called. However, if it's a young dog sometimes excitement does get the better of them.

essexplumber

7,756 posts

196 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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NDA said:
Nope, I'd feel the same way.

Quite why anyone needs to own a mastiff is beyond me, they were bred to be aggressive fighting dogs. Perfect to have around toddlers in a public park.
rolleyes "I don't like dogs so no one should have one".

How about no toddlers in the park so dogs can be exercised unhindered? Yep, a stupid suggestion. Just as stupid as your post.

NDA

24,754 posts

248 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Certain breeds are loaded guns..... 'oh Fluffy wouldn't hurt a fly' is the usual retort.

Some will say (because we live in an incredibly selfish age), if you don't like dogs, stay out of the park, thereby suggesting that parks are primarily for exercising dogs. My view is that they should be kept under control - not too difficult, even for the aggressively righteous dog owner.

I have a daughter who's nervous around dogs having been sent flying as a toddler by someones out of control animal 'oh, he's just saying hello' was the pathetic response from the owner. I'd have liked to have shown her mutt how I say hello with a spade. Grrrr!

sc0tt

18,238 posts

224 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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But won't somebody think of the children!!!

DannyScene

7,702 posts

178 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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When I'm walking the GSD she is let off the lead as soon as we get in the woods, if i see a small dog/child she gets shouted over(always responds) and put on the lead. Not because I dont trust her but because I don't know how said small critter reacts to big(ish) dogs, common decency surely?

essexplumber

7,756 posts

196 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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NDA said:
Certain breeds are loaded guns..... 'oh Fluffy wouldn't hurt a fly' is the usual retort.

I'd have liked to have shown her mutt how I say hello with a spade. Grrrr!
rolleyes Some people are very dangerous too.


Also my two dogs are always kept on a lead when children are around, not because I fear they would bite but they could get over-excited and knock the child over. Its mostly Chav types that let their animals run amok in public which is more a reflection on them than the animal.



Edited by essexplumber on Tuesday 3rd April 18:42

PugwasHDJ80

7,645 posts

244 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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If a dog off the lead causes you THAT much trouble, then don't take your children somewhere there are likely to be dogs off leads.

just as i wouldn't take my dog into a proper park without being on a short lead, don't you take your kids ont a common without expecting to see dogs off leads.

would you take your children through along a footpath in a field and be surprised when you see cows approaching you?

NoVetec

9,967 posts

196 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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NDA said:
Certain breeds are loaded guns..... 'oh Fluffy wouldn't hurt a fly' is the usual retort.

Some will say (because we live in an incredibly selfish age), if you don't like dogs, stay out of the park, thereby suggesting that parks are primarily for exercising dogs. My view is that they should be kept under control - not too difficult, even for the aggressively righteous dog owner.

I have a daughter who's nervous around dogs having been sent flying as a toddler by someones out of control animal 'oh, he's just saying hello' was the pathetic response from the owner. I'd have liked to have shown her mutt how I say hello with a spade. Grrrr!
It's a two-way street as with most things.

Certain breeds can have characteristics breed into them, but most of the time as long as they're trained properly in a suitable home they'll be fine.

When my dog was a bit younger he knocked over a 5-year-old, cue much, much apologising!

66comanche

2,369 posts

182 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Being on a lead is hardly the point is it - after all the dog can just as easily bark whether it's on the lead or not!

Worst thing is how the overly sensitive 'cotton wool' type parents will indoctrinate an instinctive fear of dogs into their children which then can become a phobia for their whole life. My girl lab wandered towards a kid the other day and she seemed fine until within a few feet then screamed and ran round her mum like she was being savaged, cue dog looking rather puzzled. Then mummy picks little darling up and carries her away, reinforcing the fact that dogs are evil and dangerous rather than desensitising her with a clearly totally soppy dog.

dingg

4,450 posts

242 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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just be grateful you didn't stand in its ste

essexplumber

7,756 posts

196 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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66comanche said:
Being on a lead is hardly the point is it - after all the dog can just as easily bark whether it's on the lead or not!

Worst thing is how the overly sensitive 'cotton wool' type parents will indoctrinate an instinctive fear of dogs into their children which then can become a phobia for their whole life. My girl lab wandered towards a kid the other day and she seemed fine until within a few feet then screamed and ran round her mum like she was being savaged, cue dog looking rather puzzled. Then mummy picks little darling up and carries her away, reinforcing the fact that dogs are evil and dangerous rather than desensitising her with a clearly totally soppy dog.
Spot on.

grumbledoak

32,362 posts

256 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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66comanche said:
My girl lab wandered towards a kid the other day and she seemed fine until within a few feet then screamed and ran round her mum like she was being savaged, cue dog looking rather puzzled.
While you seemingly did nothing to control the dog or introduce it properly. Nice. See my previous post.