Handbrake on, car moves
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E30M3SE said:
No. Sounds like handbrake shoes need adjusting, so much for that PDI.
Thanks. I've had the car 18 months to be honest and I thought it may be a 'characteristic' of a BMW/rear drive, although my TVR doesn't do it but that's a different beast to be fair. I've recently had an issue with vibration of the floor pan/under the drivers seat, as well as the steering feeling 'floaty'. Tyres all changed back to the original BMW approved ones, 4 wheel laser alignment and full wheel balance done...and it's still just as bad. It seems a bit crashy and willskip sideways a little in rutted junctions, plus the DSC come on with a very light throttle.
I wonder if this handbrake issue is the root cause of all this? Or at least part of it. Not put the two together before.
Thanks again.
James.
I would'nt have thought the two are linked, the shoes only operate on the handbrake. I would have thought that the other issue is bush/suspension related, possibly front wishbone rear bush, make sure all the springs are intact, but having said that one would assume that before any alignment work was done they would have checked all the bushes and suspension...........
Where was the alignment done, at BMW?
Where was the alignment done, at BMW?
E30M3SE said:
I would'nt have thought the two are linked, the shoes only operate on the handbrake. I would have thought that the other issue is bush/suspension related, possibly front wishbone rear bush, make sure all the springs are intact, but having said that one would assume that before any alignment work was done they would have checked all the bushes and suspension...........
Where was the alignment done, at BMW?
Yes, all the tyre changes, alignment and balancing was done at BMW. The car also rocks on start up (even more so when the auto stop/start kicks back in) as well as when it's revved in neutral. Possibly thinking propshaft and/or engine mounts now? The clutch has been changed three times so there's the possiblilty the dealers haven't put something back together correctly.Where was the alignment done, at BMW?
finestjammy said:
Yes, all the tyre changes, alignment and balancing was done at BMW. The car also rocks on start up (even more so when the auto stop/start kicks back in) as well as when it's revved in neutral. Possibly thinking propshaft and/or engine mounts now? The clutch has been changed three times so there's the possiblilty the dealers haven't put something back together correctly.
The only car i've been in that rocked on start-up was a large block Challenger!3 Clutches, that's absurd. Could be the propshaft. I would take it back and get them to perform a full inspection, something is clearly not right with the car.
bigdom said:
The only car i've been in that rocked on start-up was a large block Challenger!
3 Clutches, that's absurd. Could be the propshaft. I would take it back and get them to perform a full inspection, something is clearly not right with the car.
I agree with you all. I think my car was built on a Friday afteroon...after a very heavy boozy lunch 3 Clutches, that's absurd. Could be the propshaft. I would take it back and get them to perform a full inspection, something is clearly not right with the car.
The clutches were all replaced due to judder. Clutch number four is now going down the same route. Fuel lines, belt tensioner and belt have been replaced. I thought all this vibration and 'floaty' steering issue had been sorted with the new tyres, four wheel alignment and balancing but alas no. I'll add the handbrake problem to the, ever increasing, list as well. I've only covered 22k miles
Unfortunately, there is no control on how a car is driven and BMW will see clutch issues as that. I have seen some horrendous driving styles and would certainly noy give any warranty to some owners on their clutches the way they are driven. Not saying this is you but my neighbour used to slip the clutch at around 4000 rpm for the 2-3 minutes it used to take to get the car in or out of their garage in their Fiesta. That also suffered the same for about 10 seconds for every pull-off. Clutch lasted 500miles and they though there was nothing wrong as they had 40 years driving experience.
Unfortunately, the handbrake issue is very common on cars with narrow shoes inside the discs and I have yet to own a BMW that could be driven using the handbrake only or one that could lock the rear wheels with the handbrake. I have also owned many of them and the only ones with a "proper" handbrake had drum rear brakes (E30 and E36 316).
I have found that the occassional handbrake pull for 5 secs at normal driving speeds, ie 30-50 mph, once a week or so keep the shoes and drums (inside discs) clean and free from corrosion and help to maintain a smidgin of operational handbrake.
8Tech.
Unfortunately, the handbrake issue is very common on cars with narrow shoes inside the discs and I have yet to own a BMW that could be driven using the handbrake only or one that could lock the rear wheels with the handbrake. I have also owned many of them and the only ones with a "proper" handbrake had drum rear brakes (E30 and E36 316).
I have found that the occassional handbrake pull for 5 secs at normal driving speeds, ie 30-50 mph, once a week or so keep the shoes and drums (inside discs) clean and free from corrosion and help to maintain a smidgin of operational handbrake.
8Tech.
tim0409 said:
Clutch judder on the 3 and 1 series is very common and well documented - they have just released a redesigned clutch in the last few months - mine is in for one at the moment.
I have had the redesigned one fitted, still judders but not as violently and not as often. On another note I drove back from work today on the Motorway and the car felt awful. Fighting to keep it going in a straight line and within a lane, cars/trucks going past me meant I had to apply opposite lock as the air pressure changed. The more I think about it the more I'm convinced the rear is to blame.
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