Sea Vixen crash at Bournemouth Airport

[CarlT]

Hope they get it fixed
http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/9635534.Runw...

[davepoth]

CarlT said:

Hope they get it fixed
http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/9635534.Runw...

True, but at least the pilot walked away; that's the important bit.

[roryfizz]

Glad no one was injured, such a shame at the beginning of the display season too!

[DamienB]

Rather Daily Mail with your choice of headline aren't you?

[Ledaig]

Just seen this on the beeb news

Bugger, I've not even seen it fly out of its Red Bull colours.

Damien, any chance of one of your fabulous pics (assuming you have one of the Sea Vixen) to cheer us up?

[CarlT]

DamienB said:

Rather Daily Mail with your choice of headline aren't you?

Really? A Sea Vixen has crashed at Bournemouth Airport - sort of describes what has happened doesn't it?

[Simpo Two]

Well to be fair, the nose wheel failed to deploy/folded up. It was a controlled landing with just a scrapey bit.

It didn't 'crash' or, as the article states 'come down' - implying loss of flying ability.

[IanMorewood]

Damned now no UK carrier capable jets left.

[dr_gn]

Might as well cancel those two new carriers then - wasn't that about the last thing we currently had that could have used them?

[Ginetta G15 Girl]

Hmm.

Pilot realises he has a problem with gear selection and/or gear locked down indication(s).

Pilot carries out a flypast of the tower for a visual inspection of the gear position. Gear appears (to Tower) to be down.

Pilot lands a/c. Nosewheel leg collapses, port u/c leg appears to be unlocked.

Hardly a bloody CRASH now is it?

[Mini1275]

Christ you lot really are pedantic, aren't you?.

[Ginetta G15 Girl]

Please tell me how demonstrating that an aviation incident is not a CRASH:

(CRASH (n, adv & vi) Collide violently with obstacle; Run violently into (of aircraft or airman); Fall violently on land or sea.

Is somehow pedantic? (Major Hint: The term 'violently' is the dead give-away!)

Sorry to throw water on your Sun/Star/Mirror/Whatever nefarious Redtop crap newspaper driven "OH MY GOD AN AIRCRAFT HAS HAD A PROBLEM SO IT MUST BE A CRASH AND WE ALL NEED TO PANIC" B/S.

Come on, get a fking grip!


Or are people really THAT stupid?

[TheEnd]

Ginetta G15 Girl said:

Fall violently on land or sea.

Yep, as you say, It's a crash alright.



http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/crash

Definition of CRASH

transitive verb
1
a : to break violently and noisily : smash
b : to damage (an airplane) in landing

[Ginetta G15 Girl]

Websters is hardly an authority for ENGLISH being (as it is) a derivative of a line of dictionaries first developed by Noah Webster in AMERICA in the early 19th century. Websters is a trademark in the U.S.A. for dictionaries of AMERICAN English language.

The authority for ENGLISH is the OED (from which I quoted).


Now, forgive me if I am wrong, but this is a UK website using BRITISH ENGLISH. ERGO what I posted stands.

You might wish to be all down wit de yoof innit n cool n stuff bro wit been all Mercan like.

I, on the other hand will continue to use the Queen's English as defined by the OED.

[davepoth]

For those who don't know this one, the inscription reads "Pilot Officer Prune says - A good landing is one you can walk away from"; so it wasn't a crash at all.

[jaybirduk]

Ginetta G15 Girl said:

Websters is hardly an authority for ENGLISH being (as it is) a derivative of a line of dictionaries first developed by Noah Webster in AMERICA in the early 19th century. Websters is a trademark in the U.S.A. for dictionaries of AMERICAN English language.

The authority for ENGLISH is the OED (from which I quoted).


Now, forgive me if I am wrong, but this is a UK website using BRITISH ENGLISH. ERGO what I posted stands.

You might wish to be all down wit de yoof innit n cool n stuff bro wit been all Mercan like.

I, on the other hand will continue to use the Queen's English as defined by the OED.

Lighten up, you may learn something from this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyOYp530ndY (Stephen Fry on language)

[db]

jaybirduk said:

Lighten up, you may learn something from this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyOYp530ndY (Stephen Fry on language)

good luck with that approach
G15 may use words you misunderstand, but do not, under any circumstances, try to tell her that you know her trade better than she does.

you will lose

[SlipStream77]

jaybirduk said:

Lighten up, you may learn something from this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyOYp530ndY (Stephen Fry on language)

He appears to be advocating carelessness in the use of language.

In my trade (software engineering), that is a highly undesired characteristic, the same applies to the fields of law, medicine and the armed forces. Poor use of English can lead to inaccuracies, misunderstandings and ambiguity, the results of which can be expensive and/or dangerous.

It is both lazy and irresponsible to say, "But we all know what it means."

It's fine for poets to be creative with English, it's their pallete, but for some professions it must be treated as a logical construct. A pilot referring to an incident is one such example.

[marcosgt]

Ginetta G15 Girl said:

Hmm.

Pilot realises he has a problem with gear selection and/or gear locked down indication(s).

Pilot carries out a flypast of the tower for a visual inspection of the gear position. Gear appears (to Tower) to be down.

Pilot lands a/c. Nosewheel leg collapses, port u/c leg appears to be unlocked.

Hardly a bloody CRASH now is it?

Well, if I'm in a commercial airliner that ends up on its nose I'm going to bloody well tell everyone I was in a plane crash! (Actually, I'll probably tell everyone it was fine and no problem, but it will be a crash!).

If the plane doesn't taxi off the runway to its hangar or hardstanding on touch down, it's crashed!

On topic, such a shame for such a lovely, but rare, plane to be damaged - I too hope they get it fixed.

M.

[Zaxxon]

I thought that every landing was a crash......just that some are more controlled than others.

However, in this case I think I would defer to G G15's experience and knowledge.