Just received one of these new V5Cs in red,,,

[Mafioso]

...for one of the cars in the household. Seems to serve its purpose (because a load of the 'old' ones got nicked and they're having to change them) but it says at the top that it's NOT PROOF OF OWNERSHIP!

My question is then, what the hell is?

[MJK 24]

Mafioso said:

...for one of the cars in the household. Seems to serve its purpose (because a load of the 'old' ones got nicked and they're having to change them) but it says at the top that it's NOT PROOF OF OWNERSHIP!

My question is then, what the hell is?

A receipt.

[Sam_68]

Mafioso said:

My question is then, what the hell is?

Proof that you are the registered keeper (and therefore responsible for its use/misuse).

[SlimRick]

A record of the address to which they can send fines to.

[Mafioso]

MJK 24 said:

Mafioso said:

...for one of the cars in the household. Seems to serve its purpose (because a load of the 'old' ones got nicked and they're having to change them) but it says at the top that it's NOT PROOF OF OWNERSHIP!

My question is then, what the hell is?

A receipt.

Well yes, but have they changed it? Wasn't the old blue one a proof of ownership? Or an I making that up?

[Brite spark]

Mafioso said:

Well yes, but have they changed it? Wasn't the old blue one a proof of ownership? Or an I making that up?

No, it was only ever proof of registered keeper

[Sam_68]

Mafioso said:

Well yes, but have they changed it? Wasn't the old blue one a proof of ownership? Or an I making that up?

No, the big disclaimer is new, but it's always been 'registered keeper'.

[craigjm]

The V5 has never shown legal ownership it has always been the keeper of the vehicle. If that wasn't the case then 1000s of cars would be registered to finance companies on the V5

[Megaflow]

They are send a new V5 to everybody because of the DVLA's usual incompetence they lost a load of the previous euro style V5's and the only way to eliminate the problem was to replace them all.

Great use of tax payers money...

[Mafioso]

Oh well fair enough!

[craigjm]

Megaflow said:

They are send a new V5 to everybody because of the DVLA's usual incompetence they lost a load of the previous euro style V5's and the only way to eliminate the problem was to replace them all.

Great use of tax payers money...

Its not like things like that never happen with private companies is it now?

[Megaflow]

craigjm said:

Megaflow said:

They are send a new V5 to everybody because of the DVLA's usual incompetence they lost a load of the previous euro style V5's and the only way to eliminate the problem was to replace them all.

Great use of tax payers money...

Its not like things like that never happen with private companies is it now?

Of course you are correct. There are differences, firstly it seems to happen a lot more in the public sector and secondly when it happens in the private sector, there will be investigations and people generally made to pay.

[martin84]

Megaflow said:

Of course you are correct. There are differences, firstly it seems to happen a lot more in the public sector and secondly when it happens in the private sector, there will be investigations and people generally made to pay.

Private companies have an interest in investing their money to make it easier to do their jobs. The Public sector never gets the funding in the places it needs from Government, there's computer admin systems in the public sector which cost over £2billion a year in mistakes (errors, wrong payments etc) but no private company would put up with something which loses them £2billion a year. The fact the Government refuse to put money in the right places is hardly the public sectors fault. I worked in the public sector just a few years ago and they were using stoneage computer systems then, they were using stuff the private sector chucked in a skip 10 years ago.

But let's ignore that fact and focus on the point that in a private company somebody would be sacked or nailed to a cross and beaten with sticks for a mistake, because that makes it fine again obviously.

[craigjm]

Megaflow said:

Of course you are correct. There are differences, firstly it seems to happen a lot more in the public sector and secondly when it happens in the private sector, there will be investigations and people generally made to pay.

How do you know that neither of those things happened?

[Perd Hapley]

Mafioso said:

MJK 24 said:

Mafioso said:

...for one of the cars in the household. Seems to serve its purpose (because a load of the 'old' ones got nicked and they're having to change them) but it says at the top that it's NOT PROOF OF OWNERSHIP!

My question is then, what the hell is?

A receipt.

Well yes, but have they changed it? Wasn't the old blue one a proof of ownership? Or an I making that up?

The blue one had the same "not proof of ownership" disclaimer as the red one, except it was buried in the small print on the back.

[Megaflow]

craigjm said:

How do you know that neither of those things happened?

Because somebody would have made a big song and dance in the small minded media we have in this country.