No wonder the country is broke
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Chim

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7,259 posts

208 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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Just watched a street sweeper go past, at first glance this seems fine, a moment of thought later, its Easter fking Sunday and this guy is no doubt getting paid triple fking time to sweep the fking streets. Why, at what point did the tree lined street I live on become a priority for a quick sweep at huge cost, would it fall to bits under the weight of rubbish if it had to wait till Tuesday, the last time i looked it was fking spotless.

And we wonder why we are up to our tits in public debt.

Marf

22,907 posts

272 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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No doubt? So it couldnt possibly be the case that he has a contracted shift pattern which happened to mean one of his normal working days is this sunday, and because its a contracted shift pattern he'd only be paid his normal rate?




iva cosworth

44,044 posts

194 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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Good point,well made ,8/10 for rant for copious swearingclap

condor

8,837 posts

279 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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...or could be he's doing community service

Steffan

10,362 posts

259 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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Agreed.

There is no sense of cost control in the Public sector or value for money. Still with the crapilition.

As you say, no wonder the country is broke.

Chim

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7,259 posts

208 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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Marf said:
No doubt? So it couldnt possibly be the case that he has a contracted shift pattern which happened to mean one of his normal working days is this sunday, and because its a contracted shift pattern he'd only be paid his normal rate?
Council truck, council uniform. We don's outsource the road sweepers in this district. If he is council he is on triple time.

Marf

22,907 posts

272 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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Chim said:
Marf said:
No doubt? So it couldnt possibly be the case that he has a contracted shift pattern which happened to mean one of his normal working days is this sunday, and because its a contracted shift pattern he'd only be paid his normal rate?
Council truck, council uniform. We don's outsource the road sweepers in this district. If he is council he is on triple time.
I see, earning 3x crappy wage for one day a year, what a lucky lucky b-stard he is.

Chim

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7,259 posts

208 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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Marf said:
Chim said:
Marf said:
No doubt? So it couldnt possibly be the case that he has a contracted shift pattern which happened to mean one of his normal working days is this sunday, and because its a contracted shift pattern he'd only be paid his normal rate?
Council truck, council uniform. We don's outsource the road sweepers in this district. If he is council he is on triple time.
I see, earning 3x crappy wage for one day a year, what a lucky lucky b-stard he is.
Not the job I am getting at, its the council that are spending tax payer money on unnecessary work. So you are fine with this as the guy needs the money. interesting take on it really.

Marf

22,907 posts

272 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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No, thats what you perceive my take on it to be. Let me expand.

Personally I don't care about some shlep (allegedly)getting paid triple time to work a holiday when there are far bigger and more obvious wastes of money being perpetuated our incumbents.

Jimmy No Hands

5,102 posts

187 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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I'm working both now and tomorrow and get no extra. It's my shift pattern.

Chim

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7,259 posts

208 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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Marf said:
No, thats what you perceive my take on it to be. Let me expand.

Personally I don't care about some shlep (allegedly)getting paid triple time to work a holiday when there are far bigger and more obvious wastes of money being perpetuated our incumbents.
No doubt there are, my point is the same though. Its due to this Public sector culture (this being a small example) that the waste exists and why it costs so much run.

Monkeylegend

29,570 posts

262 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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National debt £Trillion

Roadsweepers hourly rate £6-7 ish

OP's post Priceless.

Edited by Monkeylegend on Sunday 8th April 15:13

Chim

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7,259 posts

208 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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Monkeylegend said:
National debt £Trilloin

Roadsweepers hourly rate £6-7 ish

OP's post Priceless.
Yip, and its never going to came down as long as the public sector continue to spunk money all over the place.

Monkeylegend

29,570 posts

262 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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Monkeylegend said:
Chim said:
Monkeylegend said:
National debt £Trillion

Roadsweepers hourly rate £6-7 ish

OP's post Priceless.
Yip, and its never going to came down as long as the public sector continue to spunk money all over the place.
Spot the difference wink

rich1231

17,340 posts

291 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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Marf said:
No, thats what you perceive my take on it to be. Let me expand.

Personally I don't care about some shlep (allegedly)getting paid triple time to work a holiday when there are far bigger and more obvious wastes of money being perpetuated our incumbents.
You don't manage overspending by ignoring the small obivious abuses.

cal216610

7,839 posts

201 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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rich1231 said:
You don't manage overspending by ignoring the small obivious abuses.
Case of looking after the pennies and the pound will look after itself?

once

200 posts

214 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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The chances are he's not on triple time. Not even close. The public sector is increasingly moving towards the point where every working day apart from Christmas day is paid as straight time. That includes nights, weekends and bank holidays. All paid as if they were a normal 9 to 5 weekday.

Not every locl authority has got there yet, but they're all well on the way to it.

So here's a guy being paid not much above minimum wage to work on a bank holiday. You'd complain if the streets weren't swept. And now you're complaining when they are.

steveatesh

5,383 posts

195 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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Sorry but you obviously haven't thought that what he is REALLY doing is getting in a bit surveillance as a try out for the legislation to come. Was he taking a long time to sweep up? Was he going up and down the same patch several times? Was he talking into the end of his brush in a furtive manner? They won't just be stopping at emails and phone calls you know!

So is it you or one of your neighbours that needs keeping an eye on?

EDLT

15,421 posts

237 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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This thread is stupid, isn't this kind of crap usually reserved for NP&E?

I was working today, didn't get extra pay either.

Marf

22,907 posts

272 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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rich1231 said:
Marf said:
No, thats what you perceive my take on it to be. Let me expand.

Personally I don't care about some shlep (allegedly)getting paid triple time to work a holiday when there are far bigger and more obvious wastes of money being perpetuated our incumbents.
You don't manage overspending by ignoring the small obivious abuses.
Tell ya what richmond, get me his contract to prove to me he's getting triple time today and I'll put my piss in a microwave and get it boiling doubleplusquick. Howzat?