Rolex Deepsea/Submariner prices/advice

[undred orse]

Hi all,I have a few Breitlings including a super avenger,avenger and hercules and think its about time I added a Rolex.

I like the deepsea primarily.I'm also thinking of the sub in black with the date.

Any advice on prices/discounts and the watches generally welcomed as I'm lacking in Rolex knowledge.

Thanks.

[andy tims]

Generally speaking there are no discounts on new Rolex Sports models. Dominic Hackett may be able to help though.

[andy tims]

Just looked up the RRPs

Sub (no date) £4,190
Sub Date (the new one with the ceramic bezel) £5,320
DSSD £7,070

[Buster73]

andy tims said:

Just looked up the RRPs

Sub (no date) £4,190
Sub Date (the new one with the ceramic bezel) £5,320
DSSD £7,070

Sub no date £1290 ex Switzerland about 10 years ago.

[Jonny TVR]

I think its called rolex inflation.

Going to Hong Kong this week and wonder if its cheaper there, but might be more a problem selling on?

[clockworks]

If you've got the full box and papers, it shouldn't matter where you buy it. Beware of getting stung for duty when you come back to the UK, though.

Buying "duty free" at the airport is another way of potentially saving some money.

[andy tims]

Buster73 said:

Sub no date £1290 ex Switzerland about 10 years ago.

Brand new? I doubt it.

[Buster73]

andy tims said:

Brand new? I doubt it.

On my wrist now , bought in Zermatt at Stauble Watches on the Bahnhofstrasse.

Think it was less 5 % discount off list and no vat to pay as it was exported.

And the exchange rate was miles better in those days.

Anymore info needed to quell your doubts ?

[Jollyclub]

Buster73 said:

On my wrist now , bought in Zermatt at Stauble Watches on the Bahnhofstrasse.

Think it was less 5 % discount off list and no vat to pay as it was exported.

And the exchange rate was miles better in those days.

Anymore info needed to quell your doubts ?

depends on how loose your definition of 'about 10 yrs ago' is.

In 2002 a 14060 was circa £2500 in the UK. Exchange rates vs CHF were better, but not that much better.

I'd say your 'about 10 yrs' is nearer 14-15.

[philcray]

FWIW I paid £2,350 for a 16610 SS Sub Date back in late 2002 which was list price then, bought from a UK main dealer.... I seem to recall the no date version was about £1,950

[LukeBird]

Jollyclub said:

depends on how loose your definition of 'about 10 yrs ago' is.

In 2002 a 14060 was circa £2500 in the UK. Exchange rates vs CHF were better, but not that much better.

I'd say your 'about 10 yrs' is nearer 14-15.

According to this (admittedly American price list) it wouldn't have been close to £2.5k in the UK then. Price rises in the last 5yrs or so have been astronomical.

[Riff Raff]

philcray said:

FWIW I paid £2,350 for a 16610 SS Sub Date back in late 2002 which was list price then, bought from a UK main dealer.... I seem to recall the no date version was about £1,950

That sounds about right. I paid £2,500 for a new Explorer II round about that time. I had to pay a bit of a premium for it because (oh happy days) Sports models were in short supply back then and you had to wait to get them through ADs. ISTR that list was £2,200 or thereabouts.

[andy_s]

^ £2250 in 2000 for an Explorer II, bought via a Swiss AD as very difficult to get hold of in UK at the time.

[philcray]

Riff Raff said:

That sounds about right. I paid £2,500 for a new Explorer II round about that time. I had to pay a bit of a premium for it because (oh happy days) Sports models were in short supply back then and you had to wait to get them through ADs. ISTR that list was £2,200 or thereabouts.

The sports models were indeed hard to get hold of back then, I lived in London and never actually saw a SS Sub Date for sale in any main dealer. I also looked at the GMT II which was more widely available, and cost the same at £2,350, but hung out for the Sub Date and bought one from the Rolex dealer up in Preston, where they did not sell quite as fast (even then I had to pay for it over the phone and pick it up when I was up north a few weeks later). Nowadays of course you can pretty much pick one up from any Rolex dealer, if you have about £5,5k in your trousers that is....!

[marcgti6]

I managed to get just under 10% discount from my AD when I bought my new Sub date in December 2011.

You're best off having a chat to your AD and see what they say. I didn't have to twist my AD's arm too much - just ask politely.

Can't believe the Rolex price rises in the last 5-10 years!

[355spiderguy]

back to topic...!

i too am looking to add a deepsea to my modest collection of breitling super avenger & yellow M1, omega triple date speedmaster & orange dial P.O chrono..

last week emailed 5 rolex dealers in the UK with regards to deepsea; list £7070.

2 replies so far;

* £7070 with no discount whatsover but 0% finance if required ( they also stated any rolex dealer giving discount shall be 'struck off'! )

* £6700 regardless if bought outright or on 0% finance.... awaiting further responces.

any better deals would be good to hear about, and i shall post when further replies are received.

hope this helps!

[Ballistic]

Went into town today, shopping around for the following two watches, if purchased together:
1) Rolex 116610LV green submariner.
2) Omega 232.30.46.21.01.002 s/s bracelet orange 45.5mm Seamaster PO

I figured offering to purchase both together would get me the best deal.

Best I came away with from two AD is Rolex at list (still can't get beyond the official line of 'we can't/don't need too discount s/s sports watches') with the first service thrown in for free and 20% of the Omega.
Decided to come home and sleep on it.
Neither watch was in stock and I was quoted a couple of weeks for the Omega and anything up to 2/3 months for the Rolex.
The other AD offered the same cash deal, minus the free service, with delivery of both watches by the weekend.

Does the PH massive consider this a good deal?

[Riff Raff]

Ballistic said:

Does the PH massive consider this a good deal?

If it was me, I'd be talking to Dominic H on here.

http://www.hackettwatches.com/hw/

[Lunablack]

There is a LNIB deep sea on TZ at the moment... Purchased on 4/3/12... And it's up for £5925..
Looking at the pics, I'd be 99.9% sure it's unworn


There is also a second one from Jan 2010, worn but in excellent condition, up at £5400..

Both sales are from long standing reputable sellers

[huytonman]

You will be lucky to get a duty free Roles sports at Heathrow or any other UK airport - gold ones...no problem though. I've recently bought a few months old ceramic sub from Ebay for 4k and found an unworn DSSD at another auction site for 5.2k so they are available lighly used at a decent discount but as always buyer beware and as you are new to Rolex it may be better for you to go to a dealer such as Blowers http://www.blowers-jewellers.co.uk/ watch harbour http://www.watchharbour.co.uk/ or http://www.watchesofdistinction.com/ , the latter has a used DSSD available for £5.4k..and they are good guys (bought from them and Blowers too) but if you want new..you have to pay up!
Good luck, both watches are first class by the way and you will always be able to sell them if you get bored.
Keith