Looking at a 650i on Saturday - what to check?
Looking at a 650i on Saturday - what to check?
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ParanoidAndroid

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Wednesday 11th April 2012
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Hi guys

After some advice, going to be looking at a 2008 (so LCI) 650i at the weekend, anything specific I should check? It's not at a main dealer but given it's full service history and under 60k miles I believe (but could be wrong) that I can purchase a warranty direct from BMW.

Couple of things I've gleaned from reading this forum:-

Check the idrive for service items and when they needed doing.
Check for stone chips around front bumper
Check for wear on drivers seat
Check all electrics work
Idrive can be slow - BMW can update.
Check tyres - can be expensive to replace - when the time comes can non-run flats be used instead?

As it's not main dealer they have listed some options but not many in the advert. I'm hoping as it's a 2008 LCI car it should be fairly well specced. When I bought my Jag the dealer was able to give me a print out of the original options, assume I can call BMW and ask them to do the same if I provide the VIN and reg number? Will they do that on a car I don't own?

Also read somewhere about updated Sat Nav. When did this come in? What's the difference?

Sorry for so many questions, thanks for any help, pointers or advice you can share!

Cheers,
Graham

Roger645

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Wednesday 11th April 2012
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Re service items, check the history formally because the I drive can be reset from the car 60k is about the time that plugs need to be changed so this would be a good one to check on. If it were me I would write. Check list and go through it methodically there is a lot to check!

ParanoidAndroid

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Wednesday 11th April 2012
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Thanks, good idea re: checklist

Should have added car has done 44k miles and is up for £20k. It's one of those car supermarket places, not the ideal place to buy a BMW I agree but thought it's worth a look as the price seems very good for the year/mileage assumming it's got the right options.

Cheers
Para


2.5pi

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213 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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Ring BMW spec check on 0906 2090001 for full spec and dealer visits , must have options are media pack , not that I've ever seen one without, cup holder, seriously it's an option!, nice to have are BMW individual Audio, HUD, and Nappa,

htd seats leather and xenons were std on the 650 , dynamic drive is also impressive but on mine was troublesome and expensive as an option.

Check inner tyre edges for wear as they tend to go first especial on rear, should have full BMW history and beware dinks on the door swage line as they are nigh on impossible to smart repair as there is a reinforcement bar in the aluminium doors just behind, also check front end carefully as damage to composite wings is a b@gger as well

Good luck, they are fabulous cars!

2.5pi

5678

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Wednesday 11th April 2012
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iDrive can be reset by holding both eject buttons and the volume button down for several seconds.

Gearbox can be reset by turning ignition on, holding throttle down to the floor for 45 seconds, turn off ignition, then back on.


ParanoidAndroid

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Wednesday 11th April 2012
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Thanks for advice guys. Called the number mentioned above, they can't confirm the service details but could tell me the garages it visited (8 x visits to Williams in Manchester) so I'll check with them.

Also confirmed the options as:

Auto Gearbox
USB connection
Navigation
BMW Assist
Bluetooth connectivity
DAB radio

so no mention of Logic 7, upgraded leather etc which is a shame.

5678

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258 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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Williams are good, I've used them a few times now.

Car sounds quite low spec. Personally I'd look for another. 650s just don't sell very often and it's a buyers market.

ParanoidAndroid

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Yes it's a shame about the spec as it's the only LCI car I've seen that fits our budget. Unfortunately for us we are a bit against it for time as the car is for my wife as she's started a new job and lost her company car perk. We've seen a few older 650i's so far that haven't been that great and narrowly missed an ex-pistonheaders car at Big Motoring World in Kent that on paper looked good.

Our local BMW dealer has a 2007 630i coming in soon that seems very good spec wise but is more miles than the LCI 650i and not that much cheaper. I may drive it just to see what a 630 is like...



2.5pi

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Wednesday 11th April 2012
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Hi
Spec sounds ok, DAB is a major plus in my book, 650 is different league to 630 and the v8 is surprisingly economical, I regularly got over30 mpg on mway trips, mate with 630 was only 2 mpg better overall, history sounds pukka as well.

Best of luck!

5678

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Wednesday 11th April 2012
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630 will always leave you wanting IMO. The 6 NEEDS the V8. (I went out to buy a 630... came back with a 650!) I average 22.7 and the current tank is 27.5 over 250 miles of mainly mways.

What's on the LCI cars to make it worth having?


ParanoidAndroid

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Wednesday 11th April 2012
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5678 said:
What's on the LCI cars to make it worth having?
From reading this forum, I think there were some improvements to the fuel economy, LED indicators and rear lights, front and rear bumper revisions, newer style gear selector. Nothing too major, not sure if I've missed anything.

ParanoidAndroid

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Thursday 12th April 2012
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On a slightly different note should I be discounting the older 645ci's? Could save myself a bundle of cash but I guess will have potential increased running costs? What are these like to drive?

5678

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Thursday 12th April 2012
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ParanoidAndroid said:
On a slightly different note should I be discounting the older 645ci's? Could save myself a bundle of cash but I guess will have potential increased running costs? What are these like to drive?
I've not driven an LCI car to compare, but my 2006 650 has been rock solid reliable over 2 years and 22k miles. As I said above, it's averaged around 21-22mpg over that time and can get up to 28-32mpg at 60-70 on the mway.
My car, with 39k on it, fbmwsh, warranty and Sunroof, iPod, Logic7, heated seats, cup holder, extended leather inc Dashboard is only worth £12k trade. It would go for about £14-15k private I think. 20k on the LCI sounds a lot and is money you will never see again.

I'd stay away from the 645. The problems were fairly rare, but they did have engine issues.

ParanoidAndroid

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Thursday 12th April 2012
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5678 said:
My car, with 39k on it, fbmwsh, warranty and Sunroof, iPod, Logic7, heated seats, cup holder, extended leather inc Dashboard is only worth £12k trade. It would go for about £14-15k private I think. 20k on the LCI sounds a lot and is money you will never see again.

I'd stay away from the 645. The problems were fairly rare, but they did have engine issues.
Fancy selling yours? biggrin

5678

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Thursday 12th April 2012
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ParanoidAndroid said:
Fancy selling yours? biggrin
Will PM you.