Ban HGV's between 7 and 9 in the morning
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I think about this every morning as I drive to work specialy when stuck behind the inevitable inconsiderate truck driver who has pulled out to ride at the side of another for mile after mile. If all the HGV's were banned from moving on public roads between 07:00 and 09:00 Monday to Friday, it would reduce congestion, reduce accidents, allow the other traffic to flow, you never know it may even allow some of the equally inconsiderate car drivers out of the middle and outside lanes.
johnny-b said:
If all the HGV's were banned from moving on public roads between 07:00 and 09:00 Monday to Friday, it would reduce congestion, reduce accidents, allow the other traffic to flow, you never know it may even allow some of the equally inconsiderate car drivers out of the middle and outside lanes.
56mph speed limits would fix this too. And it would mean lower fuel use for all the other motorists.Win win.
OP said:
Wah wah wah it's all HGV's fault.
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king sick of people moaning about this. The problem with traffic is inconsiderate car driving monghats who don't know the rules of the fking road. Why shouldn't one truck overtake another? At least when they do finally get past they move back to lane 1 if they can, not like every other sthead on the motorway who exclusively uses lane 2 and possibly lane 3 (I'm looking at you, tt in the National Express coach who's too fking lazy to obey the highway code).How about we ban everyone from the road who isn't you? Moron.
Your journey is equally important as everyone else's using the road. You are not special or a driving god. Traffic happens. Stop whining.
Edited to add: I'm not, nor have I ever been, an HGV driver.
johnny-b said:
I think about this every morning as I drive to work specialy when stuck behind the inevitable inconsiderate truck driver who has pulled out to ride at the side of another for mile after mile. If all the HGV's were banned from moving on public roads between 07:00 and 09:00 Monday to Friday, it would reduce congestion, reduce accidents, allow the other traffic to flow, you never know it may even allow some of the equally inconsiderate car drivers out of the middle and outside lanes.
If you drove all day every day you'd soon realise it happens all day every day all over the country. It even happens in the bit where lorries are banned from lane 2 of the 2 lane stretch of the M42 
I do think there should be some sort of regulation or at least a gentleman's agreement saying that when another 40-tonner that is clearly slightly quicker than yours pulls out, you should back off a fraction to let him pass in a reasonable timeframe. Because on two-lane roads, I find myself somewhat appalled at the lack of consideration from the driver of the slower truck, not the overtaking one, for refusing to cost himself five seconds to stop a tailback of fifty cars for five minutes or more.
Not sure what any HGV drivers have to say about this, I can see it would maybe get annoying if your truck has a marginally low limiter, but what goes around comes around?
Not sure what any HGV drivers have to say about this, I can see it would maybe get annoying if your truck has a marginally low limiter, but what goes around comes around?
McSam said:
I do think there should be some sort of regulation or at least a gentleman's agreement saying that when another 40-tonner that is clearly slightly quicker than yours pulls out, you should back off a fraction to let him pass in a reasonable timeframe. Because on two-lane roads, I find myself somewhat appalled at the lack of consideration from the driver of the slower truck, not the overtaking one, for refusing to cost himself five seconds to stop a tailback of fifty cars for five minutes or more.
Not sure what any HGV drivers have to say about this, I can see it would maybe get annoying if your truck has a marginally low limiter, but what goes around comes around?
Never driven a heavy truck have you?Not sure what any HGV drivers have to say about this, I can see it would maybe get annoying if your truck has a marginally low limiter, but what goes around comes around?
0000 said:
HGVs should be allowed a boost button when within range of one in front. It's not overtakes that cause issues, it's the barely moving any faster than the vehicle they're supposed to be overtaking and it applies to cars equally.
The overtaken lorry presumably has a brake pedal which would achieve the same effect. It's just selfishness that means it's not used.0000 said:
HGVs should be allowed a boost button when within range of one in front. It's not overtakes that cause issues, it's the barely moving any faster than the vehicle they're supposed to be overtaking and it applies to cars equally.
Ha ha I like that idea could 7.5 tonners have DRS too?To the OP bet your next post would be "I went to the shop/garage and they had nothing in stock until 11am when the delivery arrived bloody lazy truckers!"
Just chill out a bit were all paying to use the roads, its hardly a chore now is it poppet?
Its most certainly the case in much of Europe, HGV's banned from all but the inside lane at peak times. It works very well & makes much of Europes road networks work like multi lane highways.
The tossers over here who hold endless numbers of others up for a gain of 0.00001 mph or about 0.0001 miles extra in a day.
And yes I hold an HGV Licence!
The tossers over here who hold endless numbers of others up for a gain of 0.00001 mph or about 0.0001 miles extra in a day.
And yes I hold an HGV Licence!
McSam said:
I do think there should be some sort of regulation or at least a gentleman's agreement saying that when another 40-tonner that is clearly slightly quicker than yours pulls out, you should back off a fraction to let him pass in a reasonable timeframe. Because on two-lane roads, I find myself somewhat appalled at the lack of consideration from the driver of the slower truck, not the overtaking one, for refusing to cost himself five seconds to stop a tailback of fifty cars for five minutes or more.
Not sure what any HGV drivers have to say about this, I can see it would maybe get annoying if your truck has a marginally low limiter, but what goes around comes around?
This is almost certainly the solution, I feel. But then clearly you possess common sense, something seriously lacking in your average person today (the fact that this thread even exists is testament to that).Not sure what any HGV drivers have to say about this, I can see it would maybe get annoying if your truck has a marginally low limiter, but what goes around comes around?
If I were an HGV driver I would lift off and let the other truck pass, because I do that while I'm driving my car. I'm sure I'd feel disinclined to do this once I'd done it for a little while, because the favour is not returned by your average car driver. Indeed, it even happens when driving my car on the motorway; people like the OP whose journey is obviously far more important than my own fail to anticipate, give space or work "with" other drivers. Once I'd been cut up for the umpteenth time by a driver (probably like the OP) who had been inconvenienced by my legally mandated slower speed, my attitude would probably become more negative.
Just to re-iterate, I don't have an HGV license and I've never driven a "heavy". I have no idea how quickly they accelerate or whether my opinion on "letting someone pass" is valid, it just seems to work for me in my car. But then, I don't get irate when following two truckies overtaking, because I possess this fabled "common sense" mentioned earlier.
ikarl said:
great post op!!..... 
I'm sure it will save the economy millions of pounds whilst we delay all the goods that they transfer around the country... I mean, it's not like we're in a recession or anything
The delay to HGVs would be more than outweighed by the reduced delay to everyone else.I'm sure it will save the economy millions of pounds whilst we delay all the goods that they transfer around the country... I mean, it's not like we're in a recession or anything
Banning people from using their cars for journeys of less than five miles would have a bigger impact.
0000 said:
HGVs should be allowed a boost button when within range of one in front. It's not overtakes that cause issues, it's the barely moving any faster than the vehicle they're supposed to be overtaking and it applies to cars equally.
They need KERS.cptsideways said:
Its most certainly the case in much of Europe, HGV's banned from all but the inside lane at peak times. It works very well & makes much of Europes road networks work like multi lane highways.
The tossers over here who hold endless numbers of others up for a gain of 0.00001 mph or about 0.0001 miles extra in a day.
And yes I hold an HGV Licence!
In Holland they open the hard shoulder for trucks to use at peak times.The tossers over here who hold endless numbers of others up for a gain of 0.00001 mph or about 0.0001 miles extra in a day.
And yes I hold an HGV Licence!
They're banned in lots of places at night. Now you want to ban them in the morning? Something tells me you're the kind of guy who will also moan when your loaf of bread isn't available in store...because all the vehicles have been banned from the road.
You want it both ways?
When will people understand that until you can get a tin of beans down a phone line, we're stuck with HGV's? Is it so hard to work out that a vehicle weighing 44tons and artificially limited to 56mph takes time, much more time than a car to accelerate and decelerate? Just as with any section of society, there a re morons in trucks, but as ever the morons are a small part of the fraternity when compared to the vast majority who are hard working Joes out there grindng out long hours to make a living.
Personally, I would have the unthinking automata in Nissan notes/Micras/add crappy jap wagon as required who sit all day long at 62.5mph in lane two taken round the back of the weighbridge & shot. every day for a week. That right there is by far and away the most irritating cause of motorway thrombosis that you'll see from mile to mile.
You want it both ways?
When will people understand that until you can get a tin of beans down a phone line, we're stuck with HGV's? Is it so hard to work out that a vehicle weighing 44tons and artificially limited to 56mph takes time, much more time than a car to accelerate and decelerate? Just as with any section of society, there a re morons in trucks, but as ever the morons are a small part of the fraternity when compared to the vast majority who are hard working Joes out there grindng out long hours to make a living.
Personally, I would have the unthinking automata in Nissan notes/Micras/add crappy jap wagon as required who sit all day long at 62.5mph in lane two taken round the back of the weighbridge & shot. every day for a week. That right there is by far and away the most irritating cause of motorway thrombosis that you'll see from mile to mile.
All that is needed to sort this out is for the driver of the slower vehicle to lift his foot off the accelerator pedal and put it back down again, He will loose about 1mph but it will be enough to allow the overtaking vehicle to pass safely and quickly.
It might be a good idea while we are at the banning to ban all car driving idiots who sit on the outside lane of the M8 between Edinburgh and Glasgow
It might be a good idea while we are at the banning to ban all car driving idiots who sit on the outside lane of the M8 between Edinburgh and Glasgow
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