Majority rule or..?
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The devil in me 
made me post this - link to a story just being run on Radio 5 as well.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/education/londo...
I reckon this is going to go down so well!
So, the wishes of (some of, presumably) 1/5 of the students is enough to consider a ban? Live and let live?
So would this desk jockey also ban alcohol in towns or superstores or whatever, for fear it might offend a minority if he had his way?
made me post this - link to a story just being run on Radio 5 as well.http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/education/londo...
I reckon this is going to go down so well!
So, the wishes of (some of, presumably) 1/5 of the students is enough to consider a ban? Live and let live?
So would this desk jockey also ban alcohol in towns or superstores or whatever, for fear it might offend a minority if he had his way?
martin84 said:
17 people got an MFI advert banned once. Yes, Ofcom received 17 complaints and the advert was banned.
Equally bad imo. Where will it end, one tosser complains about something - esp. if religiously motivated and 'it' is banned, withdrawn or whatever?
It's like some comedians have pointed out recently, it seems our officials are so twitchy now that there is the growth of this absolute right not to be offended, and its consequences.
Lost_BMW said:
Equally bad imo.
Where will it end, one tosser complains about something - esp. if religiously motivated and 'it' is banned, withdrawn or whatever?
It's like some comedians have pointed out recently, it seems our officials are so twitchy now that there is the growth of this absolute right not to be offended, and its consequences.
Can't you rejoice in celebrating our multicultural society?Where will it end, one tosser complains about something - esp. if religiously motivated and 'it' is banned, withdrawn or whatever?
It's like some comedians have pointed out recently, it seems our officials are so twitchy now that there is the growth of this absolute right not to be offended, and its consequences.
You, of course, might want to ask which cultures are now part of it.
I'm not convinced anybody has asked for this. It's typical of these high-level institutionalised do-gooders to invent s
t like this to give the appearance of enhancing 'the student experience'. I once had the misfortune of working with such a person (in the loosest possible way) who declared during the World Cup that English flags in cars were racist and offensive... but the flags of other countries were acceptable because the minorities were just asserting their cultural identities. I'm not kidding either. Some of the them are so far to the left of left that they've disappeared up their own stboxes. Their motivations, like those of Mothman, aren't human.
t like this to give the appearance of enhancing 'the student experience'. I once had the misfortune of working with such a person (in the loosest possible way) who declared during the World Cup that English flags in cars were racist and offensive... but the flags of other countries were acceptable because the minorities were just asserting their cultural identities. I'm not kidding either. Some of the them are so far to the left of left that they've disappeared up their own stboxes. Their motivations, like those of Mothman, aren't human.
WhoseGeneration said:
Can't you rejoice in celebrating our multicultural society?
Er, what has that got to do with it? If anything it's reverse logic - a minority decry something commonplace in the existing society so motivate a ban. How is that encouraging multi-culturism?
You, of course, might want to ask which cultures are now part of it.
What?!
Er, what has that got to do with it? If anything it's reverse logic - a minority decry something commonplace in the existing society so motivate a ban. How is that encouraging multi-culturism?
You, of course, might want to ask which cultures are now part of it.
What?!
WhoseGeneration said:
Can't you rejoice in celebrating our multicultural society?
You, of course, might want to ask which cultures are now part of it.
The phrase "multicultural society" is stupid. What multiculturalism gave us was multisocietism, to coin a phrase.You, of course, might want to ask which cultures are now part of it.
Society doesn't have to involve culture, and would probably be best off if culture is left at the front door.
British society was at its very best when we did that; so long as the lawn was mown, we didn't really care what happened behind the front door. In that way successive generations of immigrants came here and made a good life. It was only when we began to pander to the sensibilities of immigrant communities, and allowed them to maintain parallel societies, that the problems we now have set in.
Immigrants should come to improve our society, not bring their own with them.
Lost_BMW said:
WhoseGeneration said:
Can't you rejoice in celebrating our multicultural society?
Er, what has that got to do with it? If anything it's reverse logic - a minority decry something commonplace in the existing society so motivate a ban. How is that encouraging multi-culturism?
You, of course, might want to ask which cultures are now part of it.
What?!
Er, what has that got to do with it? If anything it's reverse logic - a minority decry something commonplace in the existing society so motivate a ban. How is that encouraging multi-culturism?
You, of course, might want to ask which cultures are now part of it.
What?!
Which is much as your's.
Mojooo said:
Banning sounds like an improvement to me!
I'd agree, let's include any car or motorcycle that can exceed 70 mph, any powerboat too, perhaps you'd like to define how fast any aeroplane can fly.Then, those dangerous sports, how they they can cost us, those too.
First they etc...
Please understand what liberty means.
OP and headline wildly sensationalist as usual:
Does consideration automatically mean the ban goes ahead?
How can one decide whether to ban or not without consideration?
Story said:
A London university could ban the sale of alcohol from parts of its campus because some students consider it to be “immoral”.
Malcolm Gillies, vice chancellor of London Metropolitan University, said he was considering the move because a “high percentage” of his students see alcohol as “negative”.
Do you not think it should be given consideration? Malcolm Gillies, vice chancellor of London Metropolitan University, said he was considering the move because a “high percentage” of his students see alcohol as “negative”.
Does consideration automatically mean the ban goes ahead?
How can one decide whether to ban or not without consideration?
Edited by Pothole on Friday 13th April 01:02
Pothole said:
OP and headline wildly sensationalist as usual:
"The devil in me evil made me post this..."
No, absolutely not.
"The devil in me evil made me post this..."
Story said:
A London university could ban the sale of alcohol from parts of its campus because some students consider it to be “immoral”.
Thin end of wedge; what next? Music? Female students? Gay students?
Malcolm Gillies, vice chancellor of London Metropolitan University, said he was considering the move because a “high percentage” (20% - at most) of his students see alcohol as “negative”.
Do you not think it should be given consideration? Thin end of wedge; what next? Music? Female students? Gay students?
Malcolm Gillies, vice chancellor of London Metropolitan University, said he was considering the move because a “high percentage” (20% - at most) of his students see alcohol as “negative”.
No, absolutely not.
TheEnd said:
Bing o said:
I did ny even need to read the article to know which minority this would be about.
At what point does the average Brit get to tell these people to STFU?
No minorities have complained as far as I can tell.At what point does the average Brit get to tell these people to STFU?
Pothole said:
OP and headline wildly sensationalist as usual:
Does consideration automatically mean the ban goes ahead?
How can one decide whether to ban or not without consideration?
Alcohol is not illegal in the UK. Why should it be banned anywhere? What is wrong with free choice - if you are a bacon denier and don't like alcohol, here's a wacky idea - don't go in a fStory said:
A London university could ban the sale of alcohol from parts of its campus because some students consider it to be “immoral”.
Malcolm Gillies, vice chancellor of London Metropolitan University, said he was considering the move because a “high percentage” of his students see alcohol as “negative”.
Do you not think it should be given consideration? Malcolm Gillies, vice chancellor of London Metropolitan University, said he was considering the move because a “high percentage” of his students see alcohol as “negative”.
Does consideration automatically mean the ban goes ahead?
How can one decide whether to ban or not without consideration?
king pub. Or best still, fk off to Saudi.Not so much reading between the lines but the actual lines themselves.
Stacks of muslims go there so they are a big customer base.
Parts of Campus doesnt mean the entire Campus.
Therefore they are being flexible to at least look like they are accomodating some of their customers. Seems like good business sense to me.
I cant see any losers in this situation, really. Muslim students, their parents who want what is best for their cherub, hand wringers. Sure there will be some big bushed hipster student who will complain and bring the blokes trying to chuck one in her along for the ride. But they would complain about anything so I still think it is win win.
Stacks of muslims go there so they are a big customer base.
Parts of Campus doesnt mean the entire Campus.
Therefore they are being flexible to at least look like they are accomodating some of their customers. Seems like good business sense to me.
I cant see any losers in this situation, really. Muslim students, their parents who want what is best for their cherub, hand wringers. Sure there will be some big bushed hipster student who will complain and bring the blokes trying to chuck one in her along for the ride. But they would complain about anything so I still think it is win win.
dmulally said:
Not so much reading between the lines but the actual lines themselves.
Stacks of muslims go there so they are a big customer base.
Parts of Campus doesnt mean the entire Campus.
Therefore they are being flexible to at least look like they are accomodating some of their customers. Seems like good business sense to me.
I cant see any losers in this situation, really. Muslim students, their parents who want what is best for their cherub, hand wringers. Sure there will be some big bushed hipster student who will complain and bring the blokes trying to chuck one in her along for the ride. But they would complain about anything so I still think it is win win.
No frothing Wail indignation? Are you sure you belong here?Stacks of muslims go there so they are a big customer base.
Parts of Campus doesnt mean the entire Campus.
Therefore they are being flexible to at least look like they are accomodating some of their customers. Seems like good business sense to me.
I cant see any losers in this situation, really. Muslim students, their parents who want what is best for their cherub, hand wringers. Sure there will be some big bushed hipster student who will complain and bring the blokes trying to chuck one in her along for the ride. But they would complain about anything so I still think it is win win.
Bill said:
dmulally said:
Not so much reading between the lines but the actual lines themselves.
Stacks of muslims go there so they are a big customer base.
Parts of Campus doesnt mean the entire Campus.
Therefore they are being flexible to at least look like they are accomodating some of their customers. Seems like good business sense to me.
I cant see any losers in this situation, really. Muslim students, their parents who want what is best for their cherub, hand wringers. Sure there will be some big bushed hipster student who will complain and bring the blokes trying to chuck one in her along for the ride. But they would complain about anything so I still think it is win win.
No frothing Wail indignation? Are you sure you belong here?Stacks of muslims go there so they are a big customer base.
Parts of Campus doesnt mean the entire Campus.
Therefore they are being flexible to at least look like they are accomodating some of their customers. Seems like good business sense to me.
I cant see any losers in this situation, really. Muslim students, their parents who want what is best for their cherub, hand wringers. Sure there will be some big bushed hipster student who will complain and bring the blokes trying to chuck one in her along for the ride. But they would complain about anything so I still think it is win win.
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