A31 three car pile up last night?
A31 three car pile up last night?
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jason s4

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16,810 posts

193 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Morning all,

Just heard of the accident on the A31, surprisingly, at the main Ringwood exit towards bournemouth.

Now, i know everyone says a 50mph limit will not help, driver error etc etc, but surely a reduced limit would reduce the risk of more accidents?

I have lost count, the amount there have been there and on the opposite side in the last year or so.

That is a tricky part of the route there due to the flyover and then the right hander just after.

Seen it catch so many motorists out, especially ones not familiar with the area.

I dread to think what it will be like come the Olympics!

cptsideways

13,829 posts

275 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Numpties are still numpties even at 50mph, its a predicatable junction, every time I use it I see morons driving cars who should not have driving licences.

It's no different to thousands of other junctions out there.

garrykiller

5,670 posts

181 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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the OH spotted this on the way home from ringwood last night. said the cars were completely totalled. doesnt suprise me the amount of accidents down that road. the slip ways are tiny and some people refuse to drive more than 30pmh.

Pabl0

280 posts

223 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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At the part where people split to go down to Bournemouth or Poole I am amazed at the number of people who move to the outside lane to head to Poole then cut across all lanes to head to Bournemouth.

GT03ROB

13,984 posts

244 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Dunnoe what time it was at but it took me a 1 1/2 hrs to get from Emery Down on the A31 to home in Ashley Heath at 7:15 last night.

That stretch of road just west of Ringwood needs totally re-engieering it's crazy. Doesn't really matter what the speed limit is, there are just too many on/off points to a fast road with no slips of any length in such a short space.

900T-R

20,406 posts

280 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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If the slips are that short, a lower limit around the point where the slip joins the main carriage way might be justified IMO. A Dutch motorway I know has a 'motorway ends' with a 70 km/h limit about a kilomtetre before a very short on/off ramp, then the motorway and the regular speed limit for that road resumes again a kilometre after. It's not ideal, but given the topography there probably wasn't any realistic other option.

Of course, if you gently let off the throttle at 120 km/h once you spot the road signs you are likely to come out at the other end still well over the 70 km/h limit, and braking for the speed limit sign is not really desirable for safety and traffic flow either - no one said road design is easy ...

LukeBird

17,170 posts

232 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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cptsideways said:
Numpties are still numpties even at 50mph
This.
Unfortunately if they're that stupid to not be able to drive to the road conditions, a limit on a sign will change nothing.

GT03ROB

13,984 posts

244 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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900T-R said:
If the slips are that short, a lower limit around the point where the slip joins the main carriage way might be justified IMO. A Dutch motorway I know has a 'motorway ends' with a 70 km/h limit about a kilomtetre before a very short on/off ramp, then the motorway and the regular speed limit for that road resumes again a kilometre after. It's not ideal, but given the topography there probably wasn't any realistic other option.

Of course, if you gently let off the throttle at 120 km/h once you spot the road signs you are likely to come out at the other end still well over the 70 km/h limit, and braking for the speed limit sign is not really desirable for safety and traffic flow either - no one said road design is easy ...
It's this stretch of road here

http://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=50.845988,-1.79929&am...

The problem is you have heavy traffic generally moving at a fair speed. To the north east corner you have a good lenght slip out of Ringwood, but it is relatively blind due to elevation differences and the bend on the A31. Not a good design.

About 300m further on you have the old road coming out of Ringwood with a long slip, but you have traffic coming off of the A31 to get into the Fish Inn & garage next door. This means you cannot normally use the full length of the slip & frequently have to move from a standing start. A further 100m and you have traffic coming out of the garage which also hs to join the A31 from a standing start with no slip to speak of. Another 200m and you have traffic slowing to exit the A31, while 50m more & traffic is coming onto the A31 & trying to cross 2 lanes of traffic to stay on the A31 rather than get filtered off at the next junction.

Added to all that it's a busy tourist route so people unfamiliar with the risks, plus the average age of Ringwood is about 70 so you have doddery OAP's tring to cope with the above!

jason s4

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16,810 posts

193 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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GT03ROB said:
.......... plus the average age of Ringwood is about 70 so you have doddery OAP's tring to cope with the above!
Careful now.

Im not that age yet. biggrin

CarlT

3,424 posts

270 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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The accident last night was before the slip road and even before the flyover!

MarkwG

5,833 posts

212 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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jason s4 said:
Careful now.

Im not that age yet. biggrin
likewise - that's Ferndown you're thinking of... wink

nick1275

1,272 posts

193 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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MarkwG said:
jason s4 said:
Careful now.

Im not that age yet. biggrin
likewise - that's Ferndown you're thinking of... wink
Ahem......... Careful now

GT03ROB

13,984 posts

244 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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jason s4 said:
GT03ROB said:
.......... plus the average age of Ringwood is about 70 so you have doddery OAP's tring to cope with the above!
Careful now.

Im not that age yet. biggrin
I can't talk, I'm in Ashley Heath, average age about 80 or closer to 90 on my road!

jason s4

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16,810 posts

193 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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Ironic that this was published a couple of days before this incident.

And yet, another happens tonight.