74 2500M: no wipers, signals or cooling fan. What the...?
74 2500M: no wipers, signals or cooling fan. What the...?
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Renaldo

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311 posts

166 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Guys, I had my dash out to create a template for making up a wood dash.

Then, reinstalled the old one, and created some electrical gremlins.

I'm an electrical ignoramus, so I need some advice.

Wipers, signals and cooling fan are out.

An odd symptom: when I flip on the wiper switch or the panel switch, my tach cuts out.

Is this likely a grounding problem behind the dash. Or something as simple as a fuse?

Any advice on where to begin?

heightswitch

6,322 posts

267 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Earth..Earth and Then Earth.
Check all your earth connections

if you create bad earths then electricity finds another path of least resistance to flow down which can mean the positive supply cables of other close by items.

N.

RCK974X

2,521 posts

166 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Yeah I reckon that's the favourite (and most likely) choice.

Because it's all GRP, there has to be a good earth return, otherwise you will get all sorts of weird effects. make sure the metal cases of the gauges are earthed.

A simple way is to use a small bulb, connect one end to the battery +ve, and use the other as your test probe. Bulb should light up when an earth is touched - make sure brightness is the same as when it is connected across the battery directly. if it comes on dimly, you've got an earth problem somewhere.

What happens to side lights (gauges). that's a good clue too.

Test meters are VERY useful, even if you are an electrical novice !

Renaldo

Original Poster:

311 posts

166 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Thanks guys. I solved the turn-signals -- replaced a fuse that looked ok, but apparently wasn't.

Now, it's the wipers and cooling fan. I thought the panel lights were out, but they're not -- except to the tach.

And the tach still cuts out as soon as I turn on the wipers or the panel switch.

Does it make sense that I've got a tach grounding problem of some sort? Or is that far too simple a solution?

whitewolf

751 posts

183 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Mine did this when the stereo was on.. i had knocked the earth off the bottom of the rev counter.

RCK974X

2,521 posts

166 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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Renaldo said:
...And the tach still cuts out as soon as I turn on the wipers or the panel switch.

Does it make sense that I've got a tach grounding problem of some sort? Or is that far too simple a solution?
Yes. That makes perfect sense. Make sure case is earthed, some tachos have a separate earth tag as well, but some don't.

I still recommend a basic test meter. Cheap, and very useful for these type of problems !

Renaldo

Original Poster:

311 posts

166 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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Thank you Andy and Mick. I notice my tach has a small ground post/tab sticking out from the lower back.

And sure enough, a black wire was hanging free that seemed to logically connect to it.

But when I connected it, the problem remains. Might it be that ground wire needs to be tracked to it's grounding point to ensure it has a clean connection?

ausi steve

83 posts

188 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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As an auto-electrician, you can almost always guarantee when you see multiple strange electrical faults that there is an earth problem.TVR's being fibre-glass bodied cars need a wired earth as against a normal metal car that uses the body for a return.

Renaldo

Original Poster:

311 posts

166 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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Guys, slowly but surely, I'm solving each issue. A ground wire wasn't connected between the speedometer and tach. I now have wipers and full panel lighting.

Only one thing isn't working: my cooling fan isn't coming on.

I'm suspecting a fuse...

Renaldo

Original Poster:

311 posts

166 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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Cooling now fan working! Just needed to reset thermostat...

RCK974X

2,521 posts

166 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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Great stuff !!

That's the way, just keep going through logically and methodically, and for TVRs at least, always suspect a dodgy earth !!

Renaldo

Original Poster:

311 posts

166 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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Thanks for the help Andy!

whitewolf

751 posts

183 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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Glad you sorted it :-)

least you know for 'next time'... As there Will be ;-)


Renaldo

Original Poster:

311 posts

166 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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Mick, with TVRs especially, how true that is...

Ron