Bury mother who hid dead baby in garden is spared jail

[barker22]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-17...
26 Week suspended sentence. Is this a joke? It seems that all that needs to be done is throw the words 'ashamed' and 'dishonoured' into the defence and they get away with a slap on the wrist.
I fear that if this had been anyone else the book would have been thrown at them.

[carmonk]

"Ch Supt Jon Rush described the case as "tragic" which "impacted on the local Asian community in East Bury". He said the investigation had been carried out with "great sensitivity"."

Are we to take it this sensitivity would be lacking had it been a white British mother? Interesting though that he said it would only impact on the Asian community. Good that our police are reinforcing ethnic boundaries, that can only be helpful in the long run.

[Pesty]

she has two get out of jail cards.

[12gauge]

What can you say other than the law acts without prejudice.

(except when one has minority status to hide behind)

[wolves_wanderer]

I wonder if she'd have killed it if it was a boy

[Pesty]

wolves_wanderer said:

I wonder if she'd have killed it if it was a boy

shhhh we can't mention that elephant.

[Victor McDade]

So she made a conscious decision to not seek medical assistance which in turn led to the death of her child.

What a joke of a sentence.

[Mojooo]

Victor McDade said:

So she made a conscious decision to not seek medical assistance which in turn led to the death of her child.

What a joke of a sentence.

Sounded like she got pregnant and was trying to keep it asecret? Tough one as I am not sure what kind of sentence I would have given out. Its unclear whether she purpoeslly wanted the baby to die or was in a position whereby she had an ill baby but was too scared to call in medical help.

Its not as bad as the bowling alley incident IMO.

[bga]

Victor McDade said:

So she made a conscious decision to not seek medical assistance which in turn led to the death of her child.

What a joke of a sentence.

It is obvious that she is no of sound mind. It is possible that the powers-that-be decided that prison was not the best place for her to get treatment.

[Mojooo]

12gauge said:

What can you say other than the law acts without prejudice.

(except when one has minority status to hide behind)

Really? this case sounded worse and she didn't go to jail from the sounds of it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7542937.stm

[Ozzie Osmond]

You guys are some sick puppies.

Which bit of having a baby at home and it died shortly afterwards do you feel deserves a harsh sentence?

Can't help thinking you're probably the same people who rant on about the nanny state...

[Pesty]

There are these things called hospitals.

Had she gone to one the baby would have lived.

She either didn't want a baby girl or was scared of her family for cultural reasons.

She lives in the UK there are people who will support her.

There is no excuse for this.

[jas xjr]

To be fair she might have had some right good cabbages this year.
Sorry

[wolves_wanderer]

Ozzie Osmond said:

Which bit of having a baby at home and it died shortly afterwards do you feel deserves a harsh sentence?

The bit where she dumped it outside in the garden and the bit where the judge said that she could have saved it by acting properly.

[Ozzie Osmond]

wolves_wanderer said:

Ozzie Osmond said:

Which bit of having a baby at home and it died shortly afterwards do you feel deserves a harsh sentence?

The bit where she dumped it outside in the garden and the bit where the judge said that she could have saved it by acting properly.

"A post-mortem examination could not determine the cause of death."

You have used the word "could" in a different way from the judge. He used it in a "might" context. You have used it in a "should" context.

At the end of the day it's a sad case, not a horrific case.

[ExChrispy Porker]

carmonk said:

"Ch Supt Jon Rush described the case as "tragic" which "impacted on the local Asian community in East Bury". He said the investigation had been carried out with "great sensitivity"."

Are we to take it this sensitivity would be lacking had it been a white British mother? Interesting though that he said it would only impact on the Asian community. Good that our police are reinforcing ethnic boundaries, that can only be helpful in the long run.

where did he say 'only'?

[wolves_wanderer]

Ozzie Osmond said:

wolves_wanderer said:

Ozzie Osmond said:

Which bit of having a baby at home and it died shortly afterwards do you feel deserves a harsh sentence?

The bit where she dumped it outside in the garden and the bit where the judge said that she could have saved it by acting properly.

"A post-mortem examination could not determine the cause of death."

You have used the word "could" in a different way from the judge. He used it in a "might" context. You have used it in a "should" context.

At the end of the day it's a sad case, not a horrific case.

Thank you for telling me what I meant. Personally I think chucking a baby in the garden to die is pretty disgusting but everyone's different

[carmonk]

ExChrispy Porker said:

carmonk said:

"Ch Supt Jon Rush described the case as "tragic" which "impacted on the local Asian community in East Bury". He said the investigation had been carried out with "great sensitivity"."

Are we to take it this sensitivity would be lacking had it been a white British mother? Interesting though that he said it would only impact on the Asian community. Good that our police are reinforcing ethnic boundaries, that can only be helpful in the long run.

where did he say 'only'?

How else could you read it? He didn't say impacted mainly or impacted somewhat, he said impacted. If he'd have meant everyone he would have said 'the community'. It's PC speak and at best it means nothing, at worse it has exactly the opposite impact I presume he was aiming for.