Not a watch, but a clock.
Not a watch, but a clock.
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DaveL485

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2,768 posts

228 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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Can anyone tell me anything about this clock? It's been in my family quite a while and currently does not reside with me (i'm not gold digging smile ) and we know very little other than it was my Grandad's for many, many years before he passed.
It's still fully operational, including chimes through the hour and the hourly bonging of 1>12. My old dear seems to think its dated from 1600's but I would say 1800's myself but that's pure conjecture.

Googling for the name on the face returns nothing of use!









The weights are ridiculously heavy....they almost feel like they are magnetically attracted to the floor such is the weight.



I can get more pics if necessary, sorry about the quality but i've screencaptured the originals to make sure there's no location info attached....you never know who's watching!

sneijder

5,231 posts

265 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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Around 1745 to 1800 I think.

I think there is an actual upright clock expert on here.

Good luck !

DaveL485

Original Poster:

2,768 posts

228 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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sneijder said:
Around 1745 to 1800 I think.

I think there is an actual upright clock expert on here.

Good luck !
That's pretty mental to think that thing is well over 200 years old. I wonder where it started its life, what places it's been in...

judas

6,243 posts

290 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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You could try contacting the British Horological Institute - if anyone knows they will.

sneijder

5,231 posts

265 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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DaveL485 said:
That's pretty mental to think that thing is well over 200 years old. I wonder where it started its life, what places it's been in...
That was looking at the third picture, sorry, bad joke.

The BHI really is your best bet.

How is the paint ? Does it look like it's been redone on the face ? I think that's normally a clue to its age.

DaveL485

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2,768 posts

228 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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sneijder said:
DaveL485 said:
That's pretty mental to think that thing is well over 200 years old. I wonder where it started its life, what places it's been in...
That was looking at the third picture, sorry, bad joke.


sneijder said:
How is the paint ? Does it look like it's been redone on the face ? I think that's normally a clue to its age.
Paint? Its not painted as far as I can see. All metal....or do you mean the numerals?

Odie

4,187 posts

213 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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that is lovely, even though it seems well worn. Its still a thing of beauty.

judas

6,243 posts

290 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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You could try contacting the British Horological Institute - if anyone knows they will.

ETA: Just realised my post has appeared again, only a day later - no idea why that's happened! confused

Edited by judas on Tuesday 17th April 20:20

clockworks

7,789 posts

176 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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Hard to tell from the pics, but it certainly looks like an early London-influenced clock - maybe 1770-ish?

Does it chime the quarters on 8 bells? If so, what "tunes" does it play? Is the chiming mechanism original, or a later addition?
Is the decoration on the case marquetry, or is it painted on?


DaveL485

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2,768 posts

228 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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clockworks said:
Hard to tell from the pics, but it certainly looks like an early London-influenced clock - maybe 1770-ish?

Does it chime the quarters on 8 bells? If so, what "tunes" does it play? Is the chiming mechanism original, or a later addition?
Is the decoration on the case marquetry, or is it painted on?
8 bells...I think so, yes. I certainly remember a set of tuneful bongs coming from it back in the day it was in constant use. Chiming is original I believe.

Case decoration is Marquetry.

DaveL485

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2,768 posts

228 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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Edit for a better video:

Like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUSKLNjjJno&fea...

clockworks

7,789 posts

176 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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Your clock is rather better than the one on the the video!

Proper antique quarter-chiming longcase clocks aren't particularly common. Even if the chime was added in the Victorian era, it's still a good clock (assuming that the rest of is original, and not a "marriage").

20th century German stuff like the one in the video is much more common, and worth an awful lot less.

Definitely worth getting a proper valuation done, then putting it back in working order if it proves to be straight. I've not been to an auction for a few years, and I stick to repairs rather than sales, but I reckon it's worth a bob or two.

DaveL485

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2,768 posts

228 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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clockworks said:
Definitely worth getting a proper valuation done,
I will chase [the owners] to get that done, and maybe insure it too then. They don't even have contents insurance at all at the minute!


clockworks said:
then putting it back in working order if it proves to be straight.
It does work, it was only taken apart for transport to where it is now. It's 100% working, if a little rough around the edges!

Appreciate your help, i'll try and get them to sort it out with regards valuation and insurance.

GC8

19,910 posts

221 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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Id guess very, very early nineteenth century, if not late eighteenth, soley due to the old spelling of Staines.

DaveL485

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2,768 posts

228 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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Update: There is no update lol

The BHI have no clue, i'm currently contacting some of the approved repairers they list to see if I can get anyone to look at it. We think the "David Hartshorn" bit must be a bespoke addition for the retailer or buyer. A red herring!

barryrs

5,046 posts

254 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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You could try contacting Richard Price.

http://www.antiqueclocks.tv/

Lorneg

228 posts

210 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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I suspect that might be quite an old clock. The earliest long case clocks used brass dials, slowly being replaced by painted face dials around the late 1700's.

The maker also notes his town as 'Staynes' which is old english for 'Staines', or if you live in the place now 'Staines-upon-Thames'.

Edit, and sometimes Staines-under-a-lot-of-the thames

Edited by Lorneg on Wednesday 4th February 14:35