When will people realise they are adults?
Discussion
Every week in GG there seems to be a trend:
"I bought a car, I did f
k all to check it out before buying it, now I think something is wrong and I want to blame the seller and take no responsibility for my actions at all".
Yes - we ALL hate to be ripped off, but for smegs sake 'some' responsibility lies with the buyer. Nobody forces you to hand money over.
1. Check what you buying BEFORE you buy, not after
2. If you don't know how - LEARN
3. Or pay an impartial 3rd party who has no loyalty to either you the buyer or the seller to check it out beforehand
It really isn't difficult folks.
"I bought a car, I did f
k all to check it out before buying it, now I think something is wrong and I want to blame the seller and take no responsibility for my actions at all".Yes - we ALL hate to be ripped off, but for smegs sake 'some' responsibility lies with the buyer. Nobody forces you to hand money over.
1. Check what you buying BEFORE you buy, not after
2. If you don't know how - LEARN
3. Or pay an impartial 3rd party who has no loyalty to either you the buyer or the seller to check it out beforehand
It really isn't difficult folks.
Yep. I've made mistakes buying cars but that's what they are, my mistakes. It's unreasonable to rely on the sellers expertise when buying a car. It is reasonable to expect them to correct the fault but only when buying from a dealer and only if they've told you the car is in good condition/has a warranty etc.
If you want worry free buying then buy a new/nearly new car from a main dealer, then you have a right to expect it to be in good condition.
If you want worry free buying then buy a new/nearly new car from a main dealer, then you have a right to expect it to be in good condition.
I think part of the problem is the regular "main dealer bashing" which takes place.
If you buy an "approved used" car from a main dealer it will be a bit pricey but should come with assurance of quality and service. I've taken cars back for free fettling if the service light comes on or to have bits and pieces fixed many months later.
Buy more cheaply from a private seller and yes, you're on your own.
But the used car lot sits in uncharted territory between the two. You end up having to assess whether the trader is "reputable" or just another chancer. IMO it's best to treat the purchase as more like buying from a private seller. And no, buying an aftermarket warranty is definitely not sufficient to limit the risk.
If you buy an "approved used" car from a main dealer it will be a bit pricey but should come with assurance of quality and service. I've taken cars back for free fettling if the service light comes on or to have bits and pieces fixed many months later.
Buy more cheaply from a private seller and yes, you're on your own.
But the used car lot sits in uncharted territory between the two. You end up having to assess whether the trader is "reputable" or just another chancer. IMO it's best to treat the purchase as more like buying from a private seller. And no, buying an aftermarket warranty is definitely not sufficient to limit the risk.
Some people assume that the dealers responsibly and care is the same whether it’s a 2 year old approved car from a main dealer or a 10 year old car from a generic dealer.
Some people also assume that the 2 year old approved car will come with some sort of all inclusive hassle free motoring for many a year.
I know for a fact because I used to be one of those people.
I made a mistake in assuming a dealer would want to sell only good quality cars and would have some great after care service.
I guess it’s just a thing one learns with experience.
These days I try and avoid dealers and buy cars privately of people with posh accents and nice addresses as they tend to look after their cars and sell them at sensible prices.
Some people also assume that the 2 year old approved car will come with some sort of all inclusive hassle free motoring for many a year.
I know for a fact because I used to be one of those people.
I made a mistake in assuming a dealer would want to sell only good quality cars and would have some great after care service.
I guess it’s just a thing one learns with experience.
These days I try and avoid dealers and buy cars privately of people with posh accents and nice addresses as they tend to look after their cars and sell them at sensible prices.
Ozzie Osmond said:
I think part of the problem is the regular "main dealer bashing" which takes place.
If you buy an "approved used" car from a main dealer it will be a bit pricey but should come with assurance of quality and service. I've taken cars back for free fettling if the service light comes on or to have bits and pieces fixed many months later.
Buy more cheaply from a private seller and yes, you're on your own.
But the used car lot sits in uncharted territory between the two. You end up having to assess whether the trader is "reputable" or just another chancer. IMO it's best to treat the purchase as more like buying from a private seller. And no, buying an aftermarket warranty is definitely not sufficient to limit the risk.
I think most people totally misunderstand what a trader or dealer offers - and that's usually choice and the ability to drive before you buy. They do not offer "better" vehicles.If you buy an "approved used" car from a main dealer it will be a bit pricey but should come with assurance of quality and service. I've taken cars back for free fettling if the service light comes on or to have bits and pieces fixed many months later.
Buy more cheaply from a private seller and yes, you're on your own.
But the used car lot sits in uncharted territory between the two. You end up having to assess whether the trader is "reputable" or just another chancer. IMO it's best to treat the purchase as more like buying from a private seller. And no, buying an aftermarket warranty is definitely not sufficient to limit the risk.
If you buy private you could end up driving 200 miles to see only 3 vehicles over the course of 5 days. If you are not covered fully comp insurance then you may not even get to drive them either.
At a dealer/trader they usually have more than one car in stock. So you might have a choice of 2-5+ vehicles all in one location. And as a rule they will have trade insurance that will allow you to test drive any and all of them before you buy at NO cost to yourself.
The responsibility on knowing what you buying before you buy is 100% exactly the same, no matter where you buy it from.
This point below. Its one of my pet hates that people grudge the cost of an inspection yet will blow massive amounts of cash on a car as long as 'it has a warranty'.
I had such a job trying to convince a mate when he was looking at a 20k car to pay for a £200 inspection. And he was looking at buying privately. He actually wanted me to come along to 'ok' his choice and I said there was no way I was comfortable doing that.
Personally I think I know better than the average punter on what to look out for but even for a car worth a lot less than 20k I would in most cases get it inspected. I would even argue its worth it for a <£1k shed that has potential large bills (as its not so much the value of the car I would be concerned about but the cost of fixing something wrong).
And no matter how good you are at looking at cars, unless you have diagnostic equipment you might miss something!
This is by no means a guarantee the car is not fine mind and I am not saying it is but seriously why not pay for an inspection???
In fact even when buying from a dealer/specialist with a warranty I would (and have) considered/paid for inspections.
This as I don't even want to waste time having to take my car to get fixed even if the cost itself is covered... !
I had such a job trying to convince a mate when he was looking at a 20k car to pay for a £200 inspection. And he was looking at buying privately. He actually wanted me to come along to 'ok' his choice and I said there was no way I was comfortable doing that.
Personally I think I know better than the average punter on what to look out for but even for a car worth a lot less than 20k I would in most cases get it inspected. I would even argue its worth it for a <£1k shed that has potential large bills (as its not so much the value of the car I would be concerned about but the cost of fixing something wrong).
And no matter how good you are at looking at cars, unless you have diagnostic equipment you might miss something!
This is by no means a guarantee the car is not fine mind and I am not saying it is but seriously why not pay for an inspection???
In fact even when buying from a dealer/specialist with a warranty I would (and have) considered/paid for inspections.
This as I don't even want to waste time having to take my car to get fixed even if the cost itself is covered... !
300bhp/ton said:
Every week in GG there seems to be a trend:
3. Or pay an impartial 3rd party who has no loyalty to either you the buyer or the seller to check it out beforehand
It really isn't difficult folks.
3. Or pay an impartial 3rd party who has no loyalty to either you the buyer or the seller to check it out beforehand
It really isn't difficult folks.
Eighteeteewhy said:
I'm always suggesting on here to get a AA/RAC check done before paying for a car. Seems a lot don't take advise.
True, but it depends on how good the inspection is.I've been trying to find the source of a mystery noise on the offside front wheel of my 924 for a while and my girlfriend was insistent that her brother, being a professional mechanic, would know the answer. I described all the symptoms and he declared it was "almost certainly the CV joints". That's somewhat unlikely given the 924 is rear wheel drive.
A proper knowledgeable marque specialist is an invaluable asset, but my fear with the mainstream firms is you'd get some kid straight out of college going through a generic checklist of obvious things like 'check oil level is correct' and then charging you a hundred quid for the service.
I particularly like the stories of people who buy a car, then get it inspected afterwards, then complain back to the seller.
Some sort of strange logic.
I don’t want to pay £200 to inspect a car I might not buy, it’ll be a waste of money if I don’t buy it.
But, I do want to spend £200 on a car I now own to make sure there’s nothing wrong with it.
Some sort of strange logic.
I don’t want to pay £200 to inspect a car I might not buy, it’ll be a waste of money if I don’t buy it.
But, I do want to spend £200 on a car I now own to make sure there’s nothing wrong with it.
Chris71 said:
A proper knowledgeable marque specialist is an invaluable asset, but my fear with the mainstream firms is you'd get some kid straight out of college going through a generic checklist of obvious things like 'check oil level is correct' and then charging you a hundred quid for the service.
Never forget that sticking a used car through an MOT before you part with your money can be £54 very well spent!!Chris71 said:
Eighteeteewhy said:
I'm always suggesting on here to get a AA/RAC check done before paying for a car. Seems a lot don't take advise.
True, but it depends on how good the inspection is.I've been trying to find the source of a mystery noise on the offside front wheel of my 924 for a while and my girlfriend was insistent that her brother, being a professional mechanic, would know the answer. I described all the symptoms and he declared it was "almost certainly the CV joints". That's somewhat unlikely given the 924 is rear wheel drive.
A proper knowledgeable marque specialist is an invaluable asset, but my fear with the mainstream firms is you'd get some kid straight out of college going through a generic checklist of obvious things like 'check oil level is correct' and then charging you a hundred quid for the service.
Hugo a Gogo said:
Chris71 said:
Eighteeteewhy said:
I'm always suggesting on here to get a AA/RAC check done before paying for a car. Seems a lot don't take advise.
True, but it depends on how good the inspection is.I've been trying to find the source of a mystery noise on the offside front wheel of my 924 for a while and my girlfriend was insistent that her brother, being a professional mechanic, would know the answer. I described all the symptoms and he declared it was "almost certainly the CV joints". That's somewhat unlikely given the 924 is rear wheel drive.
A proper knowledgeable marque specialist is an invaluable asset, but my fear with the mainstream firms is you'd get some kid straight out of college going through a generic checklist of obvious things like 'check oil level is correct' and then charging you a hundred quid for the service.
Chris71 said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
Chris71 said:
Eighteeteewhy said:
I'm always suggesting on here to get a AA/RAC check done before paying for a car. Seems a lot don't take advise.
True, but it depends on how good the inspection is.I've been trying to find the source of a mystery noise on the offside front wheel of my 924 for a while and my girlfriend was insistent that her brother, being a professional mechanic, would know the answer. I described all the symptoms and he declared it was "almost certainly the CV joints". That's somewhat unlikely given the 924 is rear wheel drive.
A proper knowledgeable marque specialist is an invaluable asset, but my fear with the mainstream firms is you'd get some kid straight out of college going through a generic checklist of obvious things like 'check oil level is correct' and then charging you a hundred quid for the service.
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