Question for any seafaring types
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king TitanicJurisdiction lies with the flag state i.e where the ship/vessel is registered. In this case the US.
Some nations can exercise universal jurisdiction but this is dependent of the crime committed and by the sounds of your post, I wouldn't reveal more on a public forum.
I should add that the US treats maritime cases very seriously with regards to investigations etc this may or may not play out in your favour
Chris
Some nations can exercise universal jurisdiction but this is dependent of the crime committed and by the sounds of your post, I wouldn't reveal more on a public forum.
I should add that the US treats maritime cases very seriously with regards to investigations etc this may or may not play out in your favour
Chris
toohuge said:
Jurisdiction lies with the flag state i.e where the ship/vessel is registered. In this case the US.
Some nations can exercise universal jurisdiction but this is dependent of the crime committed and by the sounds of your post, I wouldn't reveal more on a public forum.
Chris
Cheers.Some nations can exercise universal jurisdiction but this is dependent of the crime committed and by the sounds of your post, I wouldn't reveal more on a public forum.
Chris
Not COLREGS but SOLAS - naming no names but a US cruise ship with a UK captain passed by, without stopping, a disabled fishing boat on which the crew were waving for help; two of the crew subsequently died.
Some passengers frantically advised the cruise ship's crew but were taken no notice of.
The cruise ship company has recent very high-profile form for poor seamanship.
Don't think is in in the UK press yet.
Very unpleasant.
Ayahuasca said:
Cheers.
Not COLREGS but SOLAS - naming no names but a US cruise ship with a UK captain passed by, without stopping, a disabled fishing boat on which the crew were waving for help; two of the crew subsequently died.
Some passengers frantically advised the cruise ship's crew but were taken no notice of.
The cruise ship company has recent very high-profile form for poor seamanship.
Don't think is in in the UK press yet.
Very unpleasant.
That is a very, very serious offence and something that the US would investigate very, very seriously providing that the ship was registered in the US. There are many companies that register ships in a south american country that shall remain nameless as their maritime investigations are lapse to say the least. Not COLREGS but SOLAS - naming no names but a US cruise ship with a UK captain passed by, without stopping, a disabled fishing boat on which the crew were waving for help; two of the crew subsequently died.
Some passengers frantically advised the cruise ship's crew but were taken no notice of.
The cruise ship company has recent very high-profile form for poor seamanship.
Don't think is in in the UK press yet.
Very unpleasant.
If what you say has happened (and I have no reason to doubt you) then the captain of the ship is in a bad situation. What he did is inexcusable and as there was loss of life on board the boat this will (should) not be treated lightly.
Chris
When you say "a US cruise ship" do you mean US flagged, or US owned?
I ask because in the past I have been involved in the rescue of several distressed vessels from a US-owned but UK flagged vessels. The time lost is minimal and the pax love a bit of drama so there must have been a good reason not to do it.
I ask because in the past I have been involved in the rescue of several distressed vessels from a US-owned but UK flagged vessels. The time lost is minimal and the pax love a bit of drama so there must have been a good reason not to do it.
LimaDelta said:
When you say "a US cruise ship" do you mean US flagged, or US owned?
I ask because in the past I have been involved in the rescue of several distressed vessels from a US-owned but UK flagged vessels. The time lost is minimal and the pax love a bit of drama so there must have been a good reason not to do it.
This is what I was getting at and having re-read my post obviously made a hash of it I ask because in the past I have been involved in the rescue of several distressed vessels from a US-owned but UK flagged vessels. The time lost is minimal and the pax love a bit of drama so there must have been a good reason not to do it.
In all seriousness though, it will be down to the country were the ship is registered, it is unusual to fly a different flag but it does happen.
Chris
linky: http://www.panama-guide.com/article.php/2012041318...
The captain is named in a later article on the site.
The captain is named in a later article on the site.
Ayahuasca said:
linky: http://www.panama-guide.com/article.php/2012041318...
The captain is named in a later article on the site.
A sad story. In fact we picked up a similar small vessel with three crew not too far from there a few years back. The outboard had fallen off their boat and they had been adrift for several days. The fisherman had a GPS, but no VHF. It was pure luck our helmsman spotted them.The captain is named in a later article on the site.
One of our rescues, Feb 2008
It seems that the boat in this article did not carry a radio either. I am not justifying the Captains actions, as I do not know the full facts, but one thing is certain, if they were carrying a VHF, and had made a distress call then there would be no ambiguity about signals/waving shirts and they would all be alive today.
daz3210 said:
If the comments on that site are to believed, the ship involved is linked with the Costa line.
They are both companies which come under the Carnival Corporation umbrella, including (among others) P&O, Cunard, Princess, Holland America, Seabourne, Costa, Ocean Village, Carnival, etc.Gassing Station | Boats, Planes & Trains | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff