New Regs - Any thoughts ??

New Regs - Any thoughts ??

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Jockman

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17,917 posts

161 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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Two new regulations - the MIL Check and Energy Labelling for Tyres - have caught my eye over the last few days.

The Malfunction Indication Lamp (MIL) check has been part of the MOT test since January, but only on an advisory basis. From April, however, if your dashboard warning lights for, say, ABS or ESC, TPMS etc are illuminated at MOT your car will automatically fail and you will need to get it retested once fixed. I had the DB9 MOT in March so it wasn't an issue but there have been several posts of late regarding warning lights appearing and people hoping to wait until the next service to get them seen to.

Having just bought 2 new rear tyres, I was interested to find that from November all new tyres must undergo mandatory energy labelling to allow consumers more information when choosing new tyres, as well as pushing manufacturers into the same direction as those of domestic appliances. The labels will cover fuel efficiency, wet grip and noise (including the new EU limit of 72dB in 2016).

Will be interesting to see where Aston come on the league table of MIL checks - Renault look like they could top the first table - and I'm intrigued to discover how efficient our expensive tyres really are smile

v8woollie

4,363 posts

146 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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Jockman said:
Two new regulations - the MIL Check and Energy Labelling for Tyres - have caught my eye over the last few days.

The Malfunction Indication Lamp (MIL) check has been part of the MOT test since January, but only on an advisory basis. From April, however, if your dashboard warning lights for, say, ABS or ESC, TPMS etc are illuminated at MOT your car will automatically fail and you will need to get it retested once fixed. I had the DB9 MOT in March so it wasn't an issue but there have been several posts of late regarding warning lights appearing and people hoping to wait until the next service to get them seen to.

Having just bought 2 new rear tyres, I was interested to find that from November all new tyres must undergo mandatory energy labelling to allow consumers more information when choosing new tyres, as well as pushing manufacturers into the same direction as those of domestic appliances. The labels will cover fuel efficiency, wet grip and noise (including the new EU limit of 72dB in 2016).

Will be interesting to see where Aston come on the league table of MIL checks - Renault look like they could top the first table - and I'm intrigued to discover how efficient our expensive tyres really are smile
Quite amusing that the tyre noise reg will be 72db and we are all removing fuse 22 for more noise smile

George H

14,707 posts

165 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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I think the V12V boys (and Di) will struggle for the economy side with P Zero Corsas, hardly low rolling resistance are they? hehe

I'm all for reduced tyre noise so we can hear the glorious engine note even clearer, as long as there is no sacrifice in grip smile

Jockman

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17,917 posts

161 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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v8woollie said:
Quite amusing that the tyre noise reg will be 72db and we are all removing fuse 22 for more noise smile
Never thought of it that way...quite ironic really smile

Jockman

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Tuesday 17th April 2012
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George H said:
...I'm all for reduced tyre noise so we can hear the glorious engine note even clearer, as long as there is no sacrifice in grip smile
Does noise correlate with grip, Georgeous?

Actual braking distances can reflect the efficiency of the ABS system too smile

Tony V12V

2,465 posts

153 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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Jockman said:
The Malfunction Indication Lamp (MIL) check has been part of the MOT test since January, but only on an advisory basis. From April, however, if your dashboard warning lights for, say, ABS or ESC, TPMS etc are illuminated at MOT your car will automatically fail and you will need to get it retested once fixed.
The date is still tbc. Was announced late last year that it would come in April/May...However there still has not been a 'Special Notice' to MoT stations giving an exact date that it goes 'live' so like many of the 'proposed' changes its still watch this space. TPMS will ONLY be on vehicles first regd from 1st Jan this year...So that will give everyone 3 years to sort that one out..except taxis which need a test after 12months.

George H

14,707 posts

165 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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Jockman said:
Does noise correlate with grip, Georgeous?
No idea, just don't want tyres to drop in grip to satisfy some load of bks EU legislation smile

v8woollie

4,363 posts

146 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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George H said:
No idea, just don't want tyres to drop in grip to satisfy some load of bks EU legislation smile
Just say what you think and stop holding back smile

George H

14,707 posts

165 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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v8woollie said:
Just say what you think and stop holding back smile
Good point, I do need to stop holding back smile

Jockman

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17,917 posts

161 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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Tony V12V said:
The date is still tbc. Was announced late last year that it would come in April/May...However there still has not been a 'Special Notice' to MoT stations giving an exact date that it goes 'live' so like many of the 'proposed' changes its still watch this space. TPMS will ONLY be on vehicles first regd from 1st Jan this year...So that will give everyone 3 years to sort that one out..except taxis which need a test after 12months.
Thanks for the heads up Tony - I have another 4 cars coming up for MOT (Karen's plus 3 girls) so I shall keep my eye on the advisory status of the MIL. smile

Jockman

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161 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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George H said:
No idea, just don't want tyres to drop in grip to satisfy some load of bks EU legislation smile
You make a decent point in a customary manner Georgio wink

In my factory, the first Action Point was lowered to 80dB in 2005?, and the second Action Point to 85dB - perhaps this 72dB target for 2016 is a forewarning that these Action Points are going to be lowered at some time in the near future? smile

George H

14,707 posts

165 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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Jockman said:
...plus 3 girls
scratchchin

Interesting... are any of these accompanying you to North Wales? biggrin

t1blk

778 posts

181 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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George H said:
scratchchin

Interesting... are any of these accompanying you to North Wales? biggrin
I was expecting that from the young horny Georgio, but fear not Mr Jockman as I shall offer myself to protect them and put myself in harms way to protect their virtues wink

Jockman

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161 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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t1blk said:
...to protect their virtues wink
You've never met them, have you Tony wink

Georgeous wouldn't last 5 minutes smile

George H

14,707 posts

165 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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Is that a challenge? wink

bogie

16,399 posts

273 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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I did get a phone call at MOT time this year - "TPMS light is on !" ...it was January and very cold...so I told them if they put 2psi in each tyre it might go off...low and behold, it passed its MOT wink

/i guess you need a friendly MOT place, otherwise you could fail just because the temp is a bit cold in their workshop