Shuttle Discovery flying again NASA TV live
Shuttle Discovery flying again NASA TV live
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FourWheelDrift

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Tuesday 17th April 2012
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FourWheelDrift

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Tuesday 17th April 2012
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Not sure if they are still live now or earlier clips.

7mike

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Tuesday 17th April 2012
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speedtwelve

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Tuesday 17th April 2012
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Clip on BBC news. They looked great flying over DC past the Washington Memorial. Unfortunately the BBC 'expert' wheeled out to commentate knew as much about the Shuttle as I do about knitting. Apparently Enterprise made it to space in 1979... Oh, and they get very hot on re-entry, which must have worn them out, making retiring them the best plan according to Werner Von Braun on the Beeb.

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 18th April 2012
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I saw the report on the 6 and 10 o' clock news but didn't hear any of that.

Simpo Two

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Wednesday 18th April 2012
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speedtwelve said:
Oh, and they get very hot on re-entry, which must have worn them out, making retiring them the best plan according to Werner Von Braun on the Beeb.
- who whilst a genius, died in 1977, so hardly the best commentator on the shuttle programme.

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 18th April 2012
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Simpo Two said:
speedtwelve said:
Oh, and they get very hot on re-entry, which must have worn them out, making retiring them the best plan according to Werner Von Braun on the Beeb.
- who whilst a genius, died in 1977, so hardly the best commentator on the shuttle programme.
And no great supporter of the concept selected by NASA.

FourWheelDrift

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Wednesday 18th April 2012
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That was sarcasm.

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 18th April 2012
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Maybe he should have picked a name more closely associated with the Shuttle then.

In fact, it's quite hard to do that becuase the Shuttle was designed by politicians and committees - which is why it was a mess.

speedtwelve

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Wednesday 18th April 2012
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Sorry chaps, I'll make more of an effort with Shuttle-based humour next time. As you were......

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 18th April 2012
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speedtwelve said:
Sorry chaps, I'll make more of an effort with Shuttle-based humour next time. As you were......
I'm sure you could find something in the "Strap Ons" if you try hard smile

speedtwelve

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Wednesday 18th April 2012
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That's a bit saucy for you, Eric!

On the Washington DC/Shuttle front, I remember seeing Enterprise parked at Dulles in 1987 IIRC, long before the Udvar-Hazy centre was built. Visited the NASM on that visit (twice!). It was epic.

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 18th April 2012
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Enterprise is the Cinderella of the fleet - not being a true "space" Shuttle.

lazystudent

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Wednesday 18th April 2012
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7mike

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Wednesday 18th April 2012
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These still look good for such an old plane: IMHO

Edited by 7mike on Wednesday 18th April 18:25

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 18th April 2012
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What's the picture supposed to show?

7mike

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Wednesday 18th April 2012
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Eric Mc said:
What's the picture supposed to show?
It was working a minute ago confused It was of a couple of the T38 chase/training planes

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 18th April 2012
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Still quite a pretty aeroplane.

I wonder will the 747s and T-38s be retired now seeing as NASA have no manned spacecraft.

speedtwelve

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Wednesday 18th April 2012
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The remaining 747 SCA is being scrapped once the orbiters have been delivered to the museums. Can't see why the T38s would be binned as NASA still has plenty astronauts on the books. They'll still be needed for pilot astronaut proficiency and commuting between sites. Trips to ISS will continue with Soyuz and whatever commercial venture US spacecraft comes online as an ISS manned transport in a few years.

Every US spacecraft has had pilots onboard. On Apollo even the non-pilot scientist astronauts were required to be T38 qualified. This requirement was dropped for the shuttle, with only the front-seaters maintaining T38 pilot tickets. The Russians have flown Soyuz missions crewed entirely by professional engineers by comparison. Although both US and Russian spacecraft are flown mainly on autopilot, I suppose the Russians didn't see a need to have a pilot onboard a ballistic capsule as opposed to the US with their hypersonic spaceplane that may require to be hand-flown. It'll be interesting to see if NASA drop their pilot requirement with the return to ballistic spacecraft (I realise that Apollo et al were actually conical lifting bodies that had a slightly variable lift-vector depending on re-entry attitude).

Eric Mc

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Thursday 19th April 2012
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Probably correct - although the T-38s must be about 50 years old now and are in dire need of replacement I would say.