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not in the games industry or anything..
But, consoles are here to stay. However I think much of the content - games in particular will reach a point where they will almost exclusively be delivered through the console. Big players like EA are trying to get rid of the preowned market and ensuring every purchase is linked to a console. Shops are on the downfall as it is (goodnight game) as they can't compete with online and secondhand market is slowly going down the pan.
I think there will also be more money grabbing fees like subscriptions to play games the big games online - much like mw3 elite, but essential.
But, consoles are here to stay. However I think much of the content - games in particular will reach a point where they will almost exclusively be delivered through the console. Big players like EA are trying to get rid of the preowned market and ensuring every purchase is linked to a console. Shops are on the downfall as it is (goodnight game) as they can't compete with online and secondhand market is slowly going down the pan.
I think there will also be more money grabbing fees like subscriptions to play games the big games online - much like mw3 elite, but essential.
My uneducated guess.
Consoles will always be with us, but as we've seen with the PS3 that worked and way, way back in the day the Commodore CD (I think it was called) that didn't they're going to be less and less games machines and more 'home media entertainment centres'.
We've already got one box under the TV that will do DVD/Bluray player, on demand streaming TV via iPlayer, play on demand films via lovefilm/netflicks and Sony's own (bloody expensive) service internet browser, Photo / video storage and display & PVR I can see these functions becoming more the forefront and making them more than a game machines that does other stuff.
I can envisage the next gen being able to handle the Sky/Cable signal too.
The other big question is the media the games will come on discs, publishers don't like these because they can be traded by owners and 3rd parties, hence why we're seeing these charges creeping in. downloaded straight to the hardrive, which is difficult because whilst a small % of the world game buying public can have 30, 50 even 100meg fibre optic connections, most people can't and with games getting bigger and bigger download times can be hours now for a simple demo. Or streamed remotely which needs a great connection broadband speed and a very quick 'ping' to avoid screen lag which always looks / feels terrible.
I'd guess the next consoles will come with some sort of disc drive, and the capability to download and stream as the world catches up to superfast internet connections.
And... In games, TV and film - 3D will be dead and forgotten in 5 years.
Consoles will always be with us, but as we've seen with the PS3 that worked and way, way back in the day the Commodore CD (I think it was called) that didn't they're going to be less and less games machines and more 'home media entertainment centres'.
We've already got one box under the TV that will do DVD/Bluray player, on demand streaming TV via iPlayer, play on demand films via lovefilm/netflicks and Sony's own (bloody expensive) service internet browser, Photo / video storage and display & PVR I can see these functions becoming more the forefront and making them more than a game machines that does other stuff.
I can envisage the next gen being able to handle the Sky/Cable signal too.
The other big question is the media the games will come on discs, publishers don't like these because they can be traded by owners and 3rd parties, hence why we're seeing these charges creeping in. downloaded straight to the hardrive, which is difficult because whilst a small % of the world game buying public can have 30, 50 even 100meg fibre optic connections, most people can't and with games getting bigger and bigger download times can be hours now for a simple demo. Or streamed remotely which needs a great connection broadband speed and a very quick 'ping' to avoid screen lag which always looks / feels terrible.
I'd guess the next consoles will come with some sort of disc drive, and the capability to download and stream as the world catches up to superfast internet connections.
And... In games, TV and film - 3D will be dead and forgotten in 5 years.
thegman said:
Interesting.
Do you think there will be any crossover between console and online (e.g. facebook, ios/android) markets?
In a word, yes.Do you think there will be any crossover between console and online (e.g. facebook, ios/android) markets?
Expect the next gen Xbox to be able to run all the apps that a Windows Mobile tablet will, using kinect instead of touch. I'd imagine it'll be similar for the PS4, and then of course there's the mooted Apple console...
thegman said:
Interesting.
Do you think there will be any crossover between console and online (e.g. facebook, ios/android) markets?
Hmmm, not something I've thought of. Does Facebook have a market? I could see a FB 'app' on a Console, like the TV ones, but they're really just quick-links to the mobile sites. Do you think there will be any crossover between console and online (e.g. facebook, ios/android) markets?
Having your iTunes account available via your console and the ability to sync your hardware to it would be a bonus.
Maybe I've misunderstood you, can I see the next consoles having a sort of 'app store' where you can buy customisable functions and the like? Certainly, but I didn't think of it till now.
P-Jay said:
Hmmm, not something I've thought of. Does Facebook have a market? I could see a FB 'app' on a Console, like the TV ones, but they're really just quick-links to the mobile sites.
Having your iTunes account available via your console and the ability to sync your hardware to it would be a bonus.
Maybe I've misunderstood you, can I see the next consoles having a sort of 'app store' where you can buy customisable functions and the like? Certainly, but I didn't think of it till now.
I am getting at the idea that currently game play is fragmented between console/pc and online/mobile. I wonder if and how they will crossover. The idea of having these types of games accesible via console and played kinect is interesting. Having your iTunes account available via your console and the ability to sync your hardware to it would be a bonus.
Maybe I've misunderstood you, can I see the next consoles having a sort of 'app store' where you can buy customisable functions and the like? Certainly, but I didn't think of it till now.
Kinect is ok, it's fun and does what the WII is good at in that it can get a whole family (including those that hate games) playing together.
It won't be until Kinect 2.0 or whatever it will be called comes out that it could be used as a hardcore gaming accessory. When it can detect your head moving a fraction so the view onscreen changes so you look left, right, up or down to see the apex of a corner, or teammate running alongside you into battle etc or it detects when you enact cocking a rifle or aiming etc
For an idea regrding the head moving and how it can improve gaming have a look at Track IR, I have one and it was brilliant when used with ARMA 2
It won't be until Kinect 2.0 or whatever it will be called comes out that it could be used as a hardcore gaming accessory. When it can detect your head moving a fraction so the view onscreen changes so you look left, right, up or down to see the apex of a corner, or teammate running alongside you into battle etc or it detects when you enact cocking a rifle or aiming etc
For an idea regrding the head moving and how it can improve gaming have a look at Track IR, I have one and it was brilliant when used with ARMA 2
Zaxxon said:
Kinect is ok, it's fun and does what the WII is good at in that it can get a whole family (including those that hate games) playing together.
It won't be until Kinect 2.0 or whatever it will be called comes out that it could be used as a hardcore gaming accessory. When it can detect your head moving a fraction so the view onscreen changes so you look left, right, up or down to see the apex of a corner, or teammate running alongside you into battle etc or it detects when you enact cocking a rifle or aiming etc
For an idea regrding the head moving and how it can improve gaming have a look at Track IR, I have one and it was brilliant when used with ARMA 2
Personally I don't think that game mechanic works. For it to work the screen has to move too. You end up having to look out your eye corner which doesn't feel natural or comfortable.It won't be until Kinect 2.0 or whatever it will be called comes out that it could be used as a hardcore gaming accessory. When it can detect your head moving a fraction so the view onscreen changes so you look left, right, up or down to see the apex of a corner, or teammate running alongside you into battle etc or it detects when you enact cocking a rifle or aiming etc
For an idea regrding the head moving and how it can improve gaming have a look at Track IR, I have one and it was brilliant when used with ARMA 2
Which brings me onto my prediction, which is I think we'll see the comeback of VR, but at affordable home use prices. GPUs are just about powerful enough to crunch the numbers to offer acceptable lag with good fidelity, and the prices of OLED screens at the sizes required for an inch or two in front of your eyes have tumbled.
rhinochopig said:
Personally I don't think that game mechanic works. For it to work the screen has to move too. You end up having to look out your eye corner which doesn't feel natural or comfortable.
Which brings me onto my prediction, which is I think we'll see the comeback of VR, but at affordable home use prices. GPUs are just about powerful enough to crunch the numbers to offer acceptable lag with good fidelity, and the prices of OLED screens at the sizes required for an inch or two in front of your eyes have tumbled.
Always wondered whatever happened to VR. They seemed to be all the rage in the 90's and then seemed to literally disappear overnight. I still think the idea of having 3d glasses with built in screen is brilliant. They were huge in size back in the day but with modern tech they could be much smaller\lighter. Which brings me onto my prediction, which is I think we'll see the comeback of VR, but at affordable home use prices. GPUs are just about powerful enough to crunch the numbers to offer acceptable lag with good fidelity, and the prices of OLED screens at the sizes required for an inch or two in front of your eyes have tumbled.
Think of the possibilities of having OLED 3d screens which could also pick up head movement. You'd have the ideal of head tracking as someone mentioned above with the "screens" moving as you moved your head. I always remember the graphics being very poor on previous VR incarnations but the overall effect being very imersive. You could look around in 3d and look down to see your own hands etc in a 3d environment. I just wonder why noone has picked this tech up since, I think it would be a great innovation forward and would also stop the "who get's to use the TV argument dead". Even portable gaming would be improved, rather than squinting at a small screen, you'd have have huge screens in front of your eyes.
rhinochopig said:
Personally I don't think that game mechanic works. For it to work the screen has to move too. You end up having to look out your eye corner which doesn't feel natural or comfortable.
Which brings me onto my prediction, which is I think we'll see the comeback of VR, but at affordable home use prices. GPUs are just about powerful enough to crunch the numbers to offer acceptable lag with good fidelity, and the prices of OLED screens at the sizes required for an inch or two in front of your eyes have tumbled.
No, with Track IR you hardly move your head at all, but in game the view moves as much as you want. It works really well. The Kinect is nowhere near sensitive enough yet.Which brings me onto my prediction, which is I think we'll see the comeback of VR, but at affordable home use prices. GPUs are just about powerful enough to crunch the numbers to offer acceptable lag with good fidelity, and the prices of OLED screens at the sizes required for an inch or two in front of your eyes have tumbled.
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