£460 Annual RFL. What price point is it unacceptable?

[crostonian]

What is the lowest value car you would consider paying £460 annual road tax on?

[carmadgaz]

It would have to be something cheap tbh, you can either have a £5k car on £200 VED or a £2k barge and a few years £460VED for the same money.

[sawman]

My 2003 jeep is £270 RFL, I could chop it in for a 2006 or newer jeep and land myself with the £460 bill. So I wont....

However I could chop it in for a porsche cayenne of the same vintage and I wouldn't really worry about the tax (although I might try to find a decent pre 2006 car)

[anonymous-user]

its £475 now!

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicl...

and £1030 for the 1st year

£2585 for a big truck

[LuS1fer]

I just wouldn't pay it. All my three cars are sub-£250 and even that elicits seething resentment.

[troc]

Road tax on my Audi S4 in holland is almost £1k! You guys don't know how lucky you are

[deltashad]

I refuse to go up to the £460.00 tax bill.
I wonder where this is going? All the new cars are coming in with high efficiency smaller engines which will eventually spread right through the ranges of all makers.
I think a total readjustment of the tax system will be coming in the not too near future.

[bungle]

JPJPJP said:

its £475 now!

Beat me to it!

I used to think along the lines of "it's not going to bother me what the RFL is, as in the grand scheme of ownership costs it's not a huge %", but now that I'm thinking about buying a car in that bracket I'm really thinking where does it stop? In a couple of years, will the top bracket be £1000? Or more?

[martin mrt]

I refuse to pay that amount for RFL, coupled with the cost of fuel it's frankly ridiculous

[pherlopolus]

I think I will be running pre 2001 cars for quite a while - or at least until I can either afford a hybrid or do less miles and get something small.

If they eventually do the monthly payments then i think £20 a month is reasonable, £25 just about justifiable... of course compared to the tax on fuel it's still not a lot...

[Stick Legs]

Look at the price of cigarettes, I remember when I used to smoke (last pack I bought cost £5.80) every one said 'no way over £2.50' which then became 'no way over a fiver' now I see them heading for £10 and they are still smoking.

Fast / big cars are psychologically addictive, we are weak mortals, watch us justify 'oh yes it may be £1k to tax but this is a £40k car new and I picked it up for a song etc etc'.

Look at the price of fuel, and I still have a V8 Range Rover 'cos it makes a nice woffly noise'.

[Terminator X]

People are clever so we'll just get around it either now as it's high or in the future as it will doubtless keep increasing ... atm we can buy a pre-2001 car & hot it up with a V8 engine etc as indeed some on here have already done (that V8 3 series sounds awesome) - you'll still pay the non CO2 tax then.

TX.

[Olivera]

And if you pay 6 monthly, group M is now £522.50 per annum!

[GTRmad]

troc said:

Road tax on my Audi S4 in holland is almost £1k! You guys don't know how lucky you are

But i bet your roads are better than the ste we drive on

[troc]

GTRmad said:

troc said:

Road tax on my Audi S4 in holland is almost £1k! You guys don't know how lucky you are

But i bet your roads are better than the ste we drive on

The road surfaces are mostly better, yes but they are far too crowded and there are far too many cameras and police traps to actually enjoy any driving. We also lack the entire concept of the fun rolling countryside A road. No hills to roll! Makes for a nice comfortable drive towards Germany though

[Dave Hedgehog]

GTRmad said:

troc said:

Road tax on my Audi S4 in holland is almost £1k! You guys don't know how lucky you are

But i bet your roads are better than the ste we drive on

we pay more than enough tax to have prefect roads everywhere, they just decide its better to redirect 90% of it to other things like spongers and chavs

[nxh66]

I'm being screwed because my car is pre 2001. If it was a year newer my road tax would be £80 a year less. Thats a fair bit of extra tax thats been paid on it since 2001. bds.

I'd probably have traded my 3.0i Z4 for a z4M by now if it wern't for the tax.

[martin84]

Its worth noting to avoid the £475 you dont need to limit yourself to pre-2001 cars because a Band M car before a 56 plate is charged at the band K rate, giving you £200 off.

[Caulkhead]

My daily driver is band L - makes bugger all difference to annual running costs so doesn't influence me at all.

[mrmr96]

troc said:

Road tax on my Audi S4 in holland is almost £1k! You guys don't know how lucky you are

How much does fuel cost?