Help with Sky / RF-2 / Magic Eye setup
Discussion
My aim is to be able to watch (and control) both freeview (built in tuner) and sky on a bedroom TV. I've read the guides and followed the instructions but still can't get this working...
Current setup is:
Arial (loft)
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Mast-Head Amp (loft)
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~20m cable
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Amp Power Supply (lounge)
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Sky box Arial In (lounge)
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Sky box RF-2 Out (lounge)
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~15m cable
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Wall Plate ( F-type connectors) (bedroom)
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Magic Eye (bedroom)
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Bedroom TV (bedroom)
Looks right? Freeview is working fine. Problem is that I dont seem to be able to get even just the sky signal to the bedroom TV, nevermind able to control it too. Magic Eye red LED is not lit up. I'm using the TVs analog auto-tune.
Troubleshooting so far:
1. Connect TV directly to wall plate (using F-Coax adaptors). Still no Sky signal.
2. Take Bedroom TV and Magic Eye into lounge and connect the Sky Box RF-2 - Magic Eye - TV. Perform auto-tune and Sky signal is found. Magic Eye red LED is lit up and I can change Sky channels using the Magic Eye.
So the problem seems to be somewhere along the path from RF-2 - ~15m cable - wall plate. The freeview signal reaches the TV fine along the same path and I'm lead to believe that I only need to consider amplifying the sky signal if either splitting the signal or for cable runs >30m. A bit of googling suggests that I need to make sure that the wall plate is compatible with the magic eye, but even if it isn't that would only explain why the Magic Eye isnt working, and not why the sky signal isnt reaching the TV.
My next step it to remove the face plate and connect the cable behind there directly to the TV. If I can get a signal then it's clear what the problem is but I wouldnt know how to cure it. If you clicked the link you'll have seen that the wall plate is a small module that fits into a face plate along with a load of other modules, so swapping it for a different make isn't really an option. Unless other manufacturers make these? Or maybe swapping the specific module for a coax-type (as opposed to the twin F-type installed currently) would work? Although I still don't see why this (or any) wall plate should be causing the problem in the first place.
Sorry the above is a bit long-winded - just had to have a brain dump. Thanks for any suggestions
Current setup is:
Arial (loft)
|
Mast-Head Amp (loft)
|
~20m cable
|
Amp Power Supply (lounge)
|
Sky box Arial In (lounge)
---
Sky box RF-2 Out (lounge)
|
~15m cable
|
Wall Plate ( F-type connectors) (bedroom)
|
Magic Eye (bedroom)
|
Bedroom TV (bedroom)
Looks right? Freeview is working fine. Problem is that I dont seem to be able to get even just the sky signal to the bedroom TV, nevermind able to control it too. Magic Eye red LED is not lit up. I'm using the TVs analog auto-tune.
Troubleshooting so far:
1. Connect TV directly to wall plate (using F-Coax adaptors). Still no Sky signal.
2. Take Bedroom TV and Magic Eye into lounge and connect the Sky Box RF-2 - Magic Eye - TV. Perform auto-tune and Sky signal is found. Magic Eye red LED is lit up and I can change Sky channels using the Magic Eye.
So the problem seems to be somewhere along the path from RF-2 - ~15m cable - wall plate. The freeview signal reaches the TV fine along the same path and I'm lead to believe that I only need to consider amplifying the sky signal if either splitting the signal or for cable runs >30m. A bit of googling suggests that I need to make sure that the wall plate is compatible with the magic eye, but even if it isn't that would only explain why the Magic Eye isnt working, and not why the sky signal isnt reaching the TV.
My next step it to remove the face plate and connect the cable behind there directly to the TV. If I can get a signal then it's clear what the problem is but I wouldnt know how to cure it. If you clicked the link you'll have seen that the wall plate is a small module that fits into a face plate along with a load of other modules, so swapping it for a different make isn't really an option. Unless other manufacturers make these? Or maybe swapping the specific module for a coax-type (as opposed to the twin F-type installed currently) would work? Although I still don't see why this (or any) wall plate should be causing the problem in the first place.
Sorry the above is a bit long-winded - just had to have a brain dump. Thanks for any suggestions

i had a problem with the faceplate in my living room.the easiest way to trace your problem is with a multimeter to make sure you have 9v. my problem was 9v downstairs but not in the lot, turned out to be the downstairs faceplate shorting.
the reason i suggest using a multimeter is without a good connection and 9v you can still get a pic but it will be crap and the magic eye can play up. get 9v at your tv upstairs and it should work.
Your kind of in the right lines, you have 2 issues, one being no sky picture upstairs, the second sky eye not working upstairs.
Wall plates are probably the cause if the sky eye not working, some wall plates are isolating, you can tell if you have an isolating wall plate as it will have a small capacitor on the circuit board, you can fix this by soldering a link across the capacitor shorting it out.
Your second problem (no pic upstairs)could be a couple of things, the first thing I would do is to make sure the upstairs tv is tuned into sky (so take it downstairs to check like you already described) then leaving the upstairs tv switched on and on the correct analogue station you tuned sky into then pull the aerial lead out of the sky box down stairs. Does it come on upstairs? If so you need to change the modular frequency on the sky box (its probably clashing with a freeview mux). If not then you have a break in the cable or poorly terminated wall plates.
Freeview can still work off a broken cable as the cable its self can work as an aerial.
Wall plates are probably the cause if the sky eye not working, some wall plates are isolating, you can tell if you have an isolating wall plate as it will have a small capacitor on the circuit board, you can fix this by soldering a link across the capacitor shorting it out.
Your second problem (no pic upstairs)could be a couple of things, the first thing I would do is to make sure the upstairs tv is tuned into sky (so take it downstairs to check like you already described) then leaving the upstairs tv switched on and on the correct analogue station you tuned sky into then pull the aerial lead out of the sky box down stairs. Does it come on upstairs? If so you need to change the modular frequency on the sky box (its probably clashing with a freeview mux). If not then you have a break in the cable or poorly terminated wall plates.
Freeview can still work off a broken cable as the cable its self can work as an aerial.
I was hoping you wouldn't ask! But since you have... As you'll have seen there are two connectors on that face plate module, both of which I wired up and left the coils of wire until I needed them. Anyway turns out I was connecting to the wrong one in the bedroom. The cable must have been acting as the aerial for the freeview as you said, which was confusing me 
Thanks again for your advice though, appreciated

Thanks again for your advice though, appreciated

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