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crankedup

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25,764 posts

274 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2012
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Caroline Spelman MP has today announced plans that will help us to manage a third winter of little rain. 'We will introduce standpipes'. It is early days and nobody knows what the weather will bring next winter, but its certainly good to hear that our Government is on top of the situation with forward planing of this magnitude rolleyes
Meanwhile in Northern Spain they to are experiencing severe drought, first recognised four years ago. Their Government also took some forward planing into action, they now have built the largest desalination plant in Europe, this can extract sea water from the med' and deliver 180 million gallons of fresh water daily.
Different approach! Room for some discussion perhaps.

TeamD

5,060 posts

263 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2012
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Plenty of water hear, send an SAE and I'll post you some wink

Edited by TeamD on Wednesday 2nd May 14:03

Puggit

49,832 posts

279 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2012
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Simply put, there is no excuse in the UK for this kind of conversation. Standpipes should not be being considered.

We have more than adequate water in this island, we just have a mismanaged capture, retention and delivery system.

Apparently the latest excuse is that the rain is now at the wrong time of year. Without winter rain we will head for a 3rd year of drought.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

229 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2012
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or they could actually fix our water system instead of introducing pointless new things

something they COULD introduce are huge flood sewers that capture floodwater in flood risk areas and pump it into reservoirs.

all problems solved

200bhp

5,804 posts

250 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2012
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There was a feature on our local news showing how Severn Trent water were going to sell water to other parts of the country - The theory is pretty simple and requires very little new infrastructure - They simply pump "extra" water into a river at on end and extract it at the other.

Obviously it only works where there is a river going to and from the right place but the theory is so simple!

RichyBoy

3,749 posts

248 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2012
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Speed bump over a water main near my road bursts every couple of months gushing huge amounts of water for days before they fix it, they could just have the speed bump removed and solve the problem in one.

ewenm

28,506 posts

276 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2012
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I'm guessing that in Spain water provision is a public service or a single corporate entity, not in the hands of various corporate regional monopolies...

If water provision was nationalised we might have some ability to do the massive infrastructure projects that could ensure a decent water supply for everyone all the time. Getting multiple profit-driven companies to co-ordinate and fund such a project is highly unlikely.

Water privatisation was a privatisation too far and has resulted in the current farcical situation.

Sheets Tabuer

21,536 posts

246 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2012
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I've never understood why they've never used those 20' x 6' pipes running all over the country, ok they have the top open and narrow boats bobbing about but still.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

229 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2012
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i wouldent drink anything from those!! lol

ewenm

28,506 posts

276 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2012
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Sheets Tabuer said:
I've never understood why they've never used those 20' x 6' pipes running all over the country, ok they have the top open and narrow boats bobbing about but still.
There was a piece on the local news (Points West) a few weeks ago about doing exactly that.

crankedup

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25,764 posts

274 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2012
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I do recall the water board and Government stating, following the 1976 drought, that investment in water infrastructure is now at the top of the agenda. Also that if ever a drought situation should reoccur we would be well placed as a Country. They must have meant we really must purchase some new standpipes.
I have to say it, even if it may infuriate some posters, we would have been better off with the water board remaining in public ownership.

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2012
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Some do extract from canals.

DJRC

23,563 posts

267 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2012
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What staggers me is that nobody in govt, i.e. the PM or the Home Secretary has rung round the Water companies and told them the CEOs were welcome in No 10 tomorrow at 9am for a chat. Whereupon it would be explained to them that the situation wasnt acceptable and that a detailed plan of infrastructure and efficiency improvements was expected from them to prevent this future situation. Failure to provide a sufficiently competent plan would invoke a Royal Proclamation stripping their contract from them without recourse to review as Her Maj was the highest authority in the land. They would have 1 month to prepare the plan.

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

240 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2012
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DJRC said:
What staggers me is that nobody in govt, i.e. the PM or the Home Secretary has rung round the Water companies and told them the CEOs were welcome in No 10 tomorrow at 9am for a chat. Whereupon it would be explained to them that the situation wasnt acceptable and that a detailed plan of infrastructure and efficiency improvements was expected from them to prevent this future situation. Failure to provide a sufficiently competent plan would invoke a Royal Proclamation stripping their contract from them without recourse to review as Her Maj was the highest authority in the land. They would have 1 month to prepare the plan.
That would require a PM and Gov't with a back bone.
Don't expect that to be happening any time soon.

better/easier to use the opportunity to blame climate change and raise more cash.

Sgt Bilko

1,929 posts

246 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2012
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DJRC said:
What staggers me is that nobody in govt, i.e. the PM or the Home Secretary has rung round the Water companies and told them the CEOs were welcome in No 10 tomorrow at 9am for a chat. Whereupon it would be explained to them that the situation wasnt acceptable and that a detailed plan of infrastructure and efficiency improvements was expected from them to prevent this future situation. Failure to provide a sufficiently competent plan would invoke a Royal Proclamation stripping their contract from them without recourse to review as Her Maj was the highest authority in the land. They would have 1 month to prepare the plan.
Is that where the companies then ask for Gov funding, get none, then walk away laughing saying, "see you in court"?

crankedup

Original Poster:

25,764 posts

274 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2012
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Sgt Bilko said:
DJRC said:
What staggers me is that nobody in govt, i.e. the PM or the Home Secretary has rung round the Water companies and told them the CEOs were welcome in No 10 tomorrow at 9am for a chat. Whereupon it would be explained to them that the situation wasnt acceptable and that a detailed plan of infrastructure and efficiency improvements was expected from them to prevent this future situation. Failure to provide a sufficiently competent plan would invoke a Royal Proclamation stripping their contract from them without recourse to review as Her Maj was the highest authority in the land. They would have 1 month to prepare the plan.
Is that where the companies then ask for Gov funding, get none, then walk away laughing saying, "see you in court"?
It seems odd to me that railways receive Government cash but not Water Companies! Are trains more important than water!

Pesty

42,655 posts

287 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2012
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DJRC said:
What staggers me is that nobody in govt, i.e. the PM or the Home Secretary has rung round the Water companies and told them the CEOs were welcome in No 10 tomorrow at 9am for a chat. Whereupon it would be explained to them that the situation wasnt acceptable and that a detailed plan of infrastructure and efficiency improvements was expected from them to prevent this future situation. Failure to provide a sufficiently competent plan would invoke a Royal Proclamation stripping their contract from them without recourse to review as Her Maj was the highest authority in the land. They would have 1 month to prepare the plan.
Or maybe just telling them to replace the reservoirs they sold off to put houses on top.

Dr Doofenshmirtz

16,952 posts

231 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2012
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We really need a 'national grid' of water pipes.

DJRC

23,563 posts

267 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2012
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Sgt Bilko said:
DJRC said:
What staggers me is that nobody in govt, i.e. the PM or the Home Secretary has rung round the Water companies and told them the CEOs were welcome in No 10 tomorrow at 9am for a chat. Whereupon it would be explained to them that the situation wasnt acceptable and that a detailed plan of infrastructure and efficiency improvements was expected from them to prevent this future situation. Failure to provide a sufficiently competent plan would invoke a Royal Proclamation stripping their contract from them without recourse to review as Her Maj was the highest authority in the land. They would have 1 month to prepare the plan.
Is that where the companies then ask for Gov funding, get none, then walk away laughing saying, "see you in court"?
"Which court?" Closely followed by..."See that prison...?"

This is why people dont put people like me in power. Im a .

Pesty

42,655 posts

287 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2012
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Have they fixed all the leaks yet?

Seem to recal its still a stupidly massive amount lost to leaking pipes.